unfair MAD moderation in a nutshell

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unfair MAD moderation in a nutshell

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http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index. ... 34444&st=0

Recently over at MAD a thread was started by Bee Eff called "Anti-Religious Conventions: Are We The Only Ones?". The thread was fairly uninteresting, except that it provided another [ANOTHER!] example of the MAD moderation bias. The critic roman (who had 1700+ posts, not exactly a one-day troll) was banned for the following post:

QUOTE(Bee Eff @ Mar 29 2008, 06:35 PM)
do non-LDS Christians not care about these other children of God as much as they care about us?


roman says
Just to clarify-----------------others-muslims and JW---- are not children of God

We are all children of God. Permanent ban. ~Mods


Fairly stupid, but really banworthy? Seems like a suspension or warning type post to me. Anyways he was banned and here comes our old pal selek (who in Mister Scratch's recent blog profile is said to have been suspended 15+ times) with this little number.

selek wrote:
QUOTE(jwhitlock @ Mar 30 2008, 08:41 AM)

I'm not sure that any "ratio of deaths" in any measurement is "justifiable", in the most basic sense of the word.

As to cutting down the violence, so far no one's found a way to do it. However, that's probably a topic for another thread.


And the fact that the politics folder was shut down.

Please, go elsewhere for the bong of partisan politicals.

We have smaller, and far more inept fish to fry here.

Mudcat, akboy, et al.-

The fact that these "outreach" ministries rely on scurrilous and deliberately false claims to propogandize people against an entire faith qualifies them as hate speech.

If I were to deliberately lie about you- defame your character, and misrepresent your beliefs, that's libel and slander. The only difference is that these groups do it against an entire religion and solely because of that religion.

They are deliberately crafting false stereotypes and painting a false characterization of an entire people- and that's no different than the pseudo-scientific nonsense about ethnic superiority or inferiority that was so in vogue up until the 1960's.

They are exploiting ignorance, casting falsehoods, and creating "fear of another" for narrow, partisan purposes and that behavior stands in blatant violation of everything the Savior stood for.

Mudcat, I had begun to hope that you were a voice of reason amidst the flower bed of blooming idiots that is the evangelical counter-cult industry.

Your willingness to support blatant lies, un-Christian dogmatism, and such bigoted rhetoric means I must sharply revise my opinion of your downward.

As for you, Roman, the only difference between yourself and Balaam's mount is that the mount was justified and honest.

Take a break, Selek. ~ Mods


Not only does selek get to take direct shots at posters (mudcat and roman (who had already been banned and thus couldn't respond) in this most recent post) he continues to only get suspended! After more than a dozen warnings! WTF? Just another example of Selek getting another shot. Oh well.
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Sounds like MAD needs boycotting!!! Anyone up for it? LOL. That is no way to teach about the gospel. It is setting a bad example for our church and religion. What true LDS person is so harsh as to prevent someone from learning further, surely the mods should allow that this person be told they arent entirely correct in regards to LDS belief and keep their membership. The mods are turning MAD into a complete and utter farse.
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Imwashingmypirate wrote:The mods are turning MAD into a complete and utter farse.


It was a farce long ago. I think it's more like a joke.
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What like a waste of web space??? ;)
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Hello,

Well, how come at least one the MA&D Moderators banned Roman when he stated that, Yet there has not been a MA&D Moderator who banned Mighty Curelom when he stated something pretty similar to that? Here is what Mighty Curelom stated about this:

Mighty Curelom

Mar 27 2008, 06:35 PM

You're not a child of God. You're a product of evolution. Those thoughts and desires that you consider "base" are programmed into your genes, and they're there because they serve a purpose, or at least did at one time.

Besides, the God of the Bible is an evil, capricious, murdering fiend. He's not someone that you should emulate in the first place.


( http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index. ... opic=34373 , URL Address to Post: )



Yet, Mighty Curelom is still a member of the MA&D Message Board, while Roman is now banned there. The double standard on the MA&D Message Board is truly amazing there.
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roman says
Just to clarify-----------------others-muslims and JW---- are not children of God

We are all children of God. Permanent ban. ~Mods

Fairly stupid, but really banworthy? Seems like a suspension or warning type post to me. Anyways he was banned and here comes our old pal selek (who in Mister Scratch's recent blog profile is said to have been suspended 15+ times) with this little number.


Now that's an interesting question. Literally, we are all the spirit children of God. But in the adoptive sense (the Church), only membership in the Lord's Church qualifies one as a child of God.
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Pahoran has up to his usual antics in my thread over there for the past few days. When I reported his post, nothing happened. So I've had to resort to fighting fire with fire.
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CaliforniaKid wrote:Pahoran has up to his usual antics in my thread over there for the past few days. When I reported his post, nothing happened. So I've had to resort to fighting fire with fire.


You're brave to report him.

Don't you know that critics reporting can result in mod backlash?
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Post by _moksha »

I see a big difference in what Mighty Curelom said and what Roman said. The later delved into the area of hate speech.
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Re: unfair MAD moderation in a nutshell

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Bond...James Bond wrote:
QUOTE(Bee Eff @ Mar 29 2008, 06:35 PM)
do non-LDS Christians not care about these other children of God as much as they care about us?


roman says
Just to clarify-----------------others-muslims and JW---- are not children of God

We are all children of God. Permanent ban. ~Mods


Fairly stupid, but really banworthy? Seems like a suspension or warning type post to me. Anyways he was banned and here comes our old pal selek (who in Mister Scratch's recent blog profile is said to have been suspended 15+ times) with this little number.



Unreal!

Usually I just lurk here but had to say something when I saw this.

Roman stated a very basic evangelical (and other Christian) doctrine. They only believe you become a Child of God when you become "saved". Of course protestants believes that Isalm and Jehovah Witness don't teach the correct doctrine which can result in one not be "saved" and thus do not become children of God. They believe that we are creatures of God and that we only become children of God once we are saved.

Why would they ban Roman for saying a simple doctrine that is well taught in the evangelical world? He even made a follow up post (before he was baned) that explained this along with scripture.


We become children of God by adoption. Jonh 1:12 Romans 11: 17-36

Also your saying that this belief is an abomination and a sure sign of apostacy, is a sure sign that you don't know the scriptures. As the Bible teaches that we are all separated from God and only through faith in Jesus do we even recieve the right to be called sons or dauthers of God.



Even in Galatians 3:26 it states "You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus".

By being born again and having faith in the Lord Jesus, is when people become the sons and daughters of God.

what is ironic is that the Book of Mormon actually does a pretty good job of explaining this in Mosiah 5:7

"And now, because of the covenant which ye have made ye shall be called the children of Christ, his sons, and his daughters; for behold, this day he hath spiritually begotten you; for ye say that your hearts are changed through faith on his name; therefore, ye are born of him and have become his sons and his daughters."

Or Course Born agains believe that Jesus was God so I have no idea why somebody would be banned for stating a simple doctrine that people of others faiths are Not Children of God when the Bible states that they become children of God AFTER they have faith in Jesus.

It really is MAD over there. State a simple doctrine from the Bible that most Christians believe in and you get banned.
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