Has Pahoran Lost his Faith?

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_Mister Scratch
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Has Pahoran Lost his Faith?

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Yes, sure, I know---there have been a number of April Fools jokes floating around today, but this is too juicy to pass up. Over on thefoyer, our dear friend Runtu posted this utterly fascinating post:

Runtu wrote:I received this email from a well-known apologist:

You and I have known each other for many years. I believe we met on alt.religion.Mormon roughly 13 years ago, and although we find ourselves on opposite sides of the Mormon divide we have remained friendly, speaking for myself. I have on occasion been very harsh with you, among others, in defending what I considered the truth. Of late I’ve realised that the foundations on which I based my faith and from which I judged you and others may not be as solid as they once seemed.

As some have mentioned, I made a decision long ago to adopt a fairly caustic persona online, and it served me well in puncturing the self-important among “critics,” but I often wonder if that persona has clouded my judgment and hindered my ability to make sound judgments about my religion. I took it upon myself not so much to defend our religion but to attack and delegitimise the anti-Mormons; you must admit that many of them deserve to be deligitimised. In my labours to defend the church, I became someone I did not recognise: a bitter and angry person full of the bluster and rancor I so derided in others. As Dr. #### can tell you, I’m a friendly person in person, but I fear that my online persona is encroaching into my life.

I find myself at a crossroads. It has become all too painfully clear that the Book of Mormon cannot be defended as history, and I am reluctant to accept it as “inspired fiction.” All these years I’ve vouched for Joseph Smith’s character and called those who criticised him “bigots” who are filled with hate. As I grow older, I see those traits in myself, and I wonder how I allowed this to happen. Discovering Joseph’s character by turns has been enlightening and crushing.

There is a part of me which wants to publicly own up to what I know, but I am at a loss as to how to do so. So much of who I am is tied to this persona I have created, and it would be most difficult to make a sudden turn. A friend suggested that I retire ####### and return with a new screen name, but I am quite sure the moderators would recognise me. At this point I see no choice but to continue as a defender. I have been told that my abrasive and “mean-spirited” (I don’t believe I ever reached that level, do you?) persona has driven many struggling members out of the church. If that is true, I may be able to help others avoid my situation by helping them see the issues more clearly.

[deleted personal correspondence]

Again I must apologise for treating you badly on occasion. I hope you can forgive me.

###

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I'm trying to decide if this is legit or just a poor April Fool's joke.


Very interesting! At least one poster felt that this was related to Will Schryver's recent "announcement," though, clearly, whoever this "well-known" apologist is, s/he uses British spelling. I really can't think of another "well-known" non-U.S. apologist who uses British spelling aside from Pahoran. Further, we know how cruel "Pah" has been to Runtu in the past.... Very intriguing, in any case.
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Post by _The Nehor »

I think the real problem is this person places so much stock in their internet persona that it has a strong bearing on their decision-making process. If I ever get to that point PLEASE someone tell me to step away from the computer.

....assuming of course that this is legit.

Then again if the basis of your faith in the Gospel is anger towards unbelievers it's hardly worth destroying anyways. According to the 'inspired fiction', you serve the devil anyways.
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Post by _Dr. Shades »

Oh, I assume it's just an April Fool's Day joke concocted by Runtu himself to mess with us all. :-)
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The Nehor wrote:I think the real problem is this person places so much stock in their internet persona that it has a strong bearing on their decision-making process. If I ever get to that point PLEASE someone tell me to step away from the computer.

....assuming of course that this is legit.

Then again if the basis of your faith in the Gospel is anger towards unbelievers it's hardly worth destroying anyways. According to the 'inspired fiction', you serve the devil anyways.


And this is how the shunning process begins...
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antishock8 wrote:
The Nehor wrote:I think the real problem is this person places so much stock in their internet persona that it has a strong bearing on their decision-making process. If I ever get to that point PLEASE someone tell me to step away from the computer.

....assuming of course that this is legit.

Then again if the basis of your faith in the Gospel is anger towards unbelievers it's hardly worth destroying anyways. According to the 'inspired fiction', you serve the devil anyways.


And this is how the shunning process begins...


What are you talking about? I've always shunned him.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics
"I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
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Post by _antishock8 »

The Nehor wrote:
antishock8 wrote:
The Nehor wrote:I think the real problem is this person places so much stock in their internet persona that it has a strong bearing on their decision-making process. If I ever get to that point PLEASE someone tell me to step away from the computer.

....assuming of course that this is legit.

Then again if the basis of your faith in the Gospel is anger towards unbelievers it's hardly worth destroying anyways. According to the 'inspired fiction', you serve the devil anyways.


And this is how the shunning process begins...


What are you talking about? I've always shunned him.
You can’t trust adults to tell you the truth.

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Post by _The Nehor »

antishock8 wrote:
The Nehor wrote:
antishock8 wrote:
The Nehor wrote:I think the real problem is this person places so much stock in their internet persona that it has a strong bearing on their decision-making process. If I ever get to that point PLEASE someone tell me to step away from the computer.

....assuming of course that this is legit.

Then again if the basis of your faith in the Gospel is anger towards unbelievers it's hardly worth destroying anyways. According to the 'inspired fiction', you serve the devil anyways.


And this is how the shunning process begins...


What are you talking about? I've always shunned him.


Either I'm slow or you make no sense. What does putting those words in red mean?
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics
"I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
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Post by _KimberlyAnn »

I vote that it's an April Fool's Day joke by our clever Runtu.

I miss him on this board, but his new blog is incredible! He's a brilliant writer.

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Post by _CaliforniaKid »

I'm guessing it's April Fools, as well.
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Post by _Doctor Steuss »

Oi vey...

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