Yeah, here's a swipe cranky pants took at tarski on another thread:
I'm looking around so you are in luck. The lie threads need to stop and so does the whining about who gets banned and who doesn't. Posters who don't like a Mormon board being run for Mormons would probably be happier someowhere else. ~ Mods
Here's a blast from the past for folks who've been around the block like me:
"Posters who don't like a Evangelical board being run for Evangelicals would probably be happier somewhere else -
Signed, Tanners Lighthouse Message Board Mods"
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.
skippy the dead wrote:Oh yeah - and that totally should have read "Moniker". I'm multi-tasking and I let a spelling correction go through that shouldn't have (which means I screwed up Moniker in the first place, but I can admit that).
The scary thing is that their was a poster here by the name Monitor....some suggest it was DCP or Juliann or some other MAD bigshot. Now thing about monitoring that ass, as opposed to Monikers....*shrudder*
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
The gospel writers wrote that Jesus said that if a lady committs adultery then a guy can divorce her but if it is not for adultery then if he remarrys then he committs adultery. He said that if a woman divorces for any reason and was to remarrry she committs adultery. It's totally tipped toward the male.
I think we should just stone 'em.
Joseph Smiths thoughts are if your wife is a virgin when you marry her and she gives permission, that you can take as many virgins as you want whether they be fourteen or forty - you cannot committ adultery - pay no attention to local laws regarding adultery and bigamy.
Sweetie, your tuttee will always be on the agenda as long as I'm around. As will the tuttees of all hotties in the greater Shadyacres.
*EVIL LAUGH...which trails off at the realization of how creepy I am sometimes*
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
beastie wrote:I do think this particular LDS girl was strange. Come on! She admits to sexual fantasies about her girlfriend, defends it as normal, and admits she'd pose nude for a magazine... but leave her husband if he left the church!?!?!?
I think it's a mistake to use her to argue that many LDS couples divorce when one leaves the church. Certainly some do, but her case is atypical.
Personally I would never automatically recommend divorce in the case of having one spouse fall away, but I wouldn't rule it out either. Marriages are always difficult and for some couples perhaps the added stress of having one in and one out is too much. I would hope that children would be taken into account before divorce too, but maybe it's better than having one person very sad that another won't share her greatest hopes and dreams anymore.
That's General Leo. He could be my friend if he weren't my enemy. eritis sicut dii I support NCMO
beastie wrote:I do think this particular LDS girl was strange. Come on! She admits to sexual fantasies about her girlfriend, defends it as normal, and admits she'd pose nude for a magazine... but leave her husband if he left the church!?!?!?
I think it's a mistake to use her to argue that many LDS couples divorce when one leaves the church. Certainly some do, but her case is atypical.
Personally I would never automatically recommend divorce in the case of having one spouse fall away, but I wouldn't rule it out either. Marriages are always difficult and for some couples perhaps the added stress of having one in and one out is too much. I would hope that children would be taken into account before divorce too, but maybe it's better than having one person very sad that another won't share her greatest hopes and dreams anymore.
I'm hoping she's atypical. She's admitted she'll break Temple Covenants just because someone else is not following theirs, admits to lesbian (i.e. sinful thoughts) and declares them to be normal, and is willing to sell pictures of her own personal temple presumably for cash.
My guess.....not on the 'Celestial glory' fast-track.....not even on the 'not a selfish and pretentious git' fast-track.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
I think if you are talking about the perfect marriage then of course love comes before religion, but honestly, not all marriages are like that. I know mine has seemed fragile at times. Many marriages, or even most marriages, are propped up by things like children, family expectations, financial dependency, sexual fidelity, and yes, religion. Take away any one of those things and many marriages, even most marriages, would have a good chance of failing. If the marriage doesn't fail then it comes away stronger for a time. You can't just declare "love" and take things for granted thereafter.
To make a totally geeky Dungeons & Dragons analogy, it's like you have to make a marriage saving throw when you hit a crisis. If you make it, you stay together; if you don't, you divorce. Apostasy is one of the things that forces a saving throw. Death of an only child could be a similar crisis. Or bankrupcy. I think they are quite comparable, in fact, and it isn't fair to say apostasy is a stupid reason just because we are the apostates. That's a self-serving POV.
On the other hand, when I hear about Bishops telling broken-hearted wives that they should divorce because of a husband's loss of faith, that pisses me off. Get some real marriage counseling for pete's sake! It's just as self-serving to think religion is the end-all and be-all of a marriage. Or like Jesus is part of your threesome. Blech!
"And yet another little spot is smoothed out of the echo chamber wall..." Bond
By the way, I thought you all might get a kick out of knowing that last Sunday someone mentioned this Moment of Truth show during Fast and Testimony meeting and how it destroys people's lives. Many of us thought it was really a particularly strange testimony. Little did we know that later this week that very show would be the source of some mild online LDS controversy.
That's General Leo. He could be my friend if he weren't my enemy. eritis sicut dii I support NCMO
I think it's a bit unfair to place the onus of a marriage on the Mormon church. Frankly, when a spouse leaves the Mormon church that just might be the "get out of jail free" card the other spouse wanted; she/he won't be blamed by believing members for leaving the marriage, and she/he gets a fresh start. Sure, it's sad that someone would place the Mormon church over their marriage, but that's more a reflection on who they are rather than what the Mormon church is.