Ack! Tarski Banned At MAD!

[_Moniker]

What MAD does not want to become, is another Mormondiscussions.com

No, they just want to sit around in a gigantic circle-jerk of self-congratulatory, single-minded narcissism. Won't be too long now; they just have to remove that "negative element" from their ranks.

I guess being banned is better than being gutted by the likes of Orrin Porter Rockwell. I wouldn't know about being banned, though. I left voluntarily after the thread in which holy TBMs were defending the blaming victims of child abuse for the part they played in what happened to them.

I pretty much left when I saw the board go into a frenzy about MMM. Then I saw a group attack a young man that has some problems and I was disgusted by the "Christians" on that board. I rarely posted over there after that. I couldn't stomach it.

[_Moniker]

They are feeling overwhelmed there--obviously as we can tell from that earlier post where they said they had a low tolerance. I'm sorry

Are they feeling overwhelmed from the evangelicals?

[_Moniker]

No, they just want to sit around in a gigantic circle-jerk of self-congratulatory, single-minded narcissism. Won't be too long now; they just have to remove that "negative element" from their ranks.

Jump, jive, and wail. Typical.

There are a number of critics of the Church and its beliefs that have been at the FAIR message boards for a number of years and who remain there. They have not been banned. Those that are banned are normally those who cannot, like yourself, abide civil, respectful, critical debate undertaken in good faith.

For those, there is this forum and others, like RFM, on the very fringes of intellectual and moral respectability.

Critics of the Church, like water, invariably seek their own level.

Tarski has been at MAD for a few years and is probably one of the most important critics on that site. He's not just some EV that comes in spouting scripture. He's intelligent, well versed in LDS theology, matters of scientific discovery, and is actually fairly well liked there by TBMs.

[_Alter Idem]

They are feeling overwhelmed there--obviously as we can tell from that earlier post where they said they had a low tolerance. I'm sorry

Are they feeling overwhelmed from the evangelicals?

I don't think they are having trouble with EV's in particular, but apparently they've had a wave of posters they've had to ban, so I guess it's taking more time than it should to moderate the board.

I think they're shooting first and asking questions later. Tarski's been there a loooong time but so had Red Sox. Usually they cut the long timers more slack, but not lately.

[_Coggins7]

Tarski has been at MAD for a few years and is probably one of the most important critics on that site. He's not just some EV that comes in spouting scripture. He's intelligent, well versed in LDS theology, matters of scientific discovery, and is actually fairly well liked there by TBMs.

You just lost whatever credibility you had here Moniker, and to every recover it again you're going to have to do far, far better than defending a naked ideologue and intellectual poseur such as Tarski.

Tarski's knowledge of LDS doctrine, from a history of debating him on several subjects and following his posts on many more, is, at very best, marginal (better than Harmony's, and perhaps on a par with Scratch's).

His views of AGW are at the very histrionic fringe of serious debate on the subject and demonstrates virtually zero knowledge of the subject, despite his scientific degrees in physics and mathematics. In all my debates with him on this subject, he never moved once beyond the standard tactic of those within the cult of global warming: the ad hominem circumstantial, aimed at thousands of competent and many distinguished earth scientists skeptical of the idea.

His political beliefs are a congealed mass of MoveOn.org bumper sticker slogans and potboiler CNN factoid intellectualism.



This was not even a nice try Moniker, but....well, thanks for trying.

[_The Dude]

Yikes! I'll stay away from MADB until the conference "vacation" has passed and these Sunday moderators get back to 5-7 hours of church meetings like they're used to.

[_Jersey Girl]

Tarski has been at MAD for a few years and is probably one of the most important critics on that site. He's not just some EV that comes in spouting scripture. He's intelligent, well versed in LDS theology, matters of scientific discovery, and is actually fairly well liked there by TBMs.

You just lost whatever credibility you had here Moniker, and to every recover it again you're going to have to do far, far better than defending a naked ideologue and intellectual poseur such as Tarski.

Tarski's knowledge of LDS doctrine, from a history of debating him on several subjects and following his posts on many more, is, at very best, marginal (better than Harmony's, and perhaps on a par with Scratch's).

His views of AGW are at the very histrionic fringe of serious debate on the subject and demonstrates virtually zero knowledge of the subject, despite his scientific degrees in physics and mathematics. In all my debates with him on this subject, he never moved once beyond the standard tactic of those within the cult of global warming: the ad hominem circumstantial, aimed at thousands of competent and many distinguished earth scientists skeptical of the idea.

His political beliefs are a congealed mass of MoveOn.org bumper sticker slogans and potboiler CNN factoid intellectualism.



This was not even a nice try Moniker, but....well, thanks for trying.

Please provide a link to these debates.

[_asbestosman]

His views of AGW are at the very histrionic fringe of serious debate on the subject and demonstrates virtually zero knowledge of the subject, despite his scientific degrees in physics and mathematics

I smell a hijack coming up. Will Tarski take the bait? Hold on, while I make myself some popcorn.

Also what's with the overused phrase "lost any credibility"? I mean really, I think such a phrase has become silly or even meaningless.

[_Tarski]

Tarski has been at MAD for a few years and is probably one of the most important critics on that site. He's not just some EV that comes in spouting scripture. He's intelligent, well versed in LDS theology, matters of scientific discovery, and is actually fairly well liked there by TBMs.

You just lost whatever credibility you had here Moniker, and to every recover it again you're going to have to do far, far better than defending a naked ideologue and intellectual poseur such as Tarski.

Well, once again, no arguments. LOL
I suppose if one has your background it might seem the way it does to you. Hey, my mother thinks there can't be any such thing as negative numbers. Oh well.
In fact, you have never really debated me in any serious way about doctrine. False memory syndrome?

Oh, as far as being an intellectual poser, it seems that the reason that I am no longer banned at MAD is that one of the churches very best intellectual apologists, while disagreeing with me on religion of course, seems perhaps to disagree with your insult and thinks I should still be posting. If you had half the wit and intelligence of the apologist of whom I speak I might feel like debating you.

As for your wild claim that I am on the fringe, may I just point out that I only side with the majority of climate scientists on climate issues, so I can't be on the fringe (by definition)
Now, I won't waste my time with you anymore. It's too repetitious. I smash your pseudo-arguments and then you smugly declare victory.

[_Jason Bourne]

I sent Orpheus the following PM:

Your first post said I wish we could have statitiscs on what matters. Who do you think you are kidding? We've had it with this sly junk on our Mormon board for Mormons. We have more posters than we know what to do with so you won't be missed if you don't want to do what it takes to stay here. If you take up space with another post in this thread I'll ban you. ~ Mod

It's not at all clear that Tarski had time to read this warning before his 11:07 post and subsequent banning. It's also not at all clear why you're reacting the way you are to fairly inoffensive posts in this thread. I think you're merely proving how truly capricious is the moderating on this board.

Webguy from UTML has been resurrected as a Mormon!!