Nepotism alert from GC ....
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Yes Bond, there ought to be a mechanism of appeals when you are passed over for a calling. I once had a mission companion who recieved a personal revelation that he would be called district leader -- is this how you are feeling? My comp called the mission president when it didn't happen and he was rebuked. But then the next time there was an opening he did get called DL. Maybe you should contact your area representative and tell him how you are feeling. It might bear fruit down the road.
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Re: Nepotism alert from GC ....
wenglund wrote:Rollo Tomasi wrote:Thomas Monson's daughter, Ann Dibb, called as 2nd counselor in Young Women's gen'l presidency;
Boyd Packer's son, Allan, called as GA to 1st Quorum of Seventy;
Henry Eyring' s son, Matthew, called as Area Authority Seventy;
Any others that I missed?
God the Father called his Son, Jesus Christ, to head his church and kingdom on earth. Like some here, the Scribes and Pharisees had a problem with that--particularly when Christ proclaimed this truth during his mortal ministry.
Thanks, -Wade Englund-
Wow, One irrationality refuted by another irrationality. Good going Wade.
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Re: Nepotism alert from GC ....
wenglund wrote:Rollo Tomasi wrote:Thomas Monson's daughter, Ann Dibb, called as 2nd counselor in Young Women's gen'l presidency;
Boyd Packer's son, Allan, called as GA to 1st Quorum of Seventy;
Henry Eyring' s son, Matthew, called as Area Authority Seventy;
Any others that I missed?
God the Father called his Son, Jesus Christ, to head his church and kingdom on earth. Like some here, the Scribes and Pharisees had a problem with that--particularly when Christ proclaimed this truth during his mortal ministry.
Thanks, -Wade Englund-
I think the problem is, statistically, the high occurrence of close relationships doesn't reflect the statistical probability given the distribution of membership. There is a solution which is to suggest, as you did, that certain families have a higher instance of leadership talent because they have been blessed that why by good. This was an argument that was used by early Church leaders when this practice was rampant. The problem is, claiming that the "Smith" family is more righteous than the general population has certain PR ramifications.
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Re: Nepotism alert from GC ....
John Larsen wrote:wenglund wrote:Rollo Tomasi wrote:Thomas Monson's daughter, Ann Dibb, called as 2nd counselor in Young Women's gen'l presidency;
Boyd Packer's son, Allan, called as GA to 1st Quorum of Seventy;
Henry Eyring' s son, Matthew, called as Area Authority Seventy;
Any others that I missed?
God the Father called his Son, Jesus Christ, to head his church and kingdom on earth. Like some here, the Scribes and Pharisees had a problem with that--particularly when Christ proclaimed this truth during his mortal ministry.
Thanks, -Wade Englund-
I think the problem is, statistically, the high occurrence of close relationships doesn't reflect the statistical probability given the distribution of membership. There is a solution which is to suggest, as you did, that certain families have a higher instance of leadership talent because they have been blessed that why by good. This was an argument that was used by early Church leaders when this practice was rampant. The problem is, claiming that the "Smith" family is more righteous than the general population has certain PR ramifications.
To me, the only real problem are some members and non-members falsely and judgementily assuming that Church callings are necessarily an indication of "righteousness" and "goodness" (rather than on one's ability to fulfill the calling), and focusing too much on who is called (or not) to certain positions, rather than on how we each can best serve mankind whatever our lot or station in life. Those intent on the latter will likely care less what the presumed statistical breakout of close relationships, since they have far more important things to occupy their minds and actions.
Thanks, -Wade Englund-
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Re: Nepotism alert from GC ....
wenglund wrote:John Larsen wrote:wenglund wrote:Rollo Tomasi wrote:Thomas Monson's daughter, Ann Dibb, called as 2nd counselor in Young Women's gen'l presidency;
Boyd Packer's son, Allan, called as GA to 1st Quorum of Seventy;
Henry Eyring' s son, Matthew, called as Area Authority Seventy;
Any others that I missed?
God the Father called his Son, Jesus Christ, to head his church and kingdom on earth. Like some here, the Scribes and Pharisees had a problem with that--particularly when Christ proclaimed this truth during his mortal ministry.
Thanks, -Wade Englund-
I think the problem is, statistically, the high occurrence of close relationships doesn't reflect the statistical probability given the distribution of membership. There is a solution which is to suggest, as you did, that certain families have a higher instance of leadership talent because they have been blessed that why by good. This was an argument that was used by early Church leaders when this practice was rampant. The problem is, claiming that the "Smith" family is more righteous than the general population has certain PR ramifications.
To me, the only real problem are some members and non-members falsely and judgementily assuming that Church callings are necessarily an indication of "righteousness" and "goodness" (rather than on one's ability to fulfill the calling), and focusing too much on who is called (or not) to certain positions, rather than on how we each can best serve mankind whatever our lot or station in life. Those intent on the latter will likely care less what the presumed statistical breakout of close relationships, since they have far more important things to occupy their minds and actions.
Thanks, -Wade Englund-
that's not a response wade, its a dodge and a very poor one at that. You fail. Try again.
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Some insects called the human race
Lost in time
And lost in space...and meaning
Some insects called the human race
Lost in time
And lost in space...and meaning
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Re: Nepotism alert from GC ....
Mercury wrote:wenglund wrote:Rollo Tomasi wrote:Thomas Monson's daughter, Ann Dibb, called as 2nd counselor in Young Women's gen'l presidency;
Boyd Packer's son, Allan, called as GA to 1st Quorum of Seventy;
Henry Eyring' s son, Matthew, called as Area Authority Seventy;
Any others that I missed?
God the Father called his Son, Jesus Christ, to head his church and kingdom on earth. Like some here, the Scribes and Pharisees had a problem with that--particularly when Christ proclaimed this truth during his mortal ministry.
Thanks, -Wade Englund-
Wow, One irrationality refuted by another irrationality. Good going Wade.
I see that you are still making a pretense at descerning the difference between the two (rationality and irrationality). But, I will at least give you points for trying. ;-)
Thanks, -Wade Englund-
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Re: Nepotism alert from GC ....
Mercury wrote:wenglund wrote:John Larsen wrote:wenglund wrote:Rollo Tomasi wrote:Thomas Monson's daughter, Ann Dibb, called as 2nd counselor in Young Women's gen'l presidency;
Boyd Packer's son, Allan, called as GA to 1st Quorum of Seventy;
Henry Eyring' s son, Matthew, called as Area Authority Seventy;
Any others that I missed?
God the Father called his Son, Jesus Christ, to head his church and kingdom on earth. Like some here, the Scribes and Pharisees had a problem with that--particularly when Christ proclaimed this truth during his mortal ministry.
Thanks, -Wade Englund-
I think the problem is, statistically, the high occurrence of close relationships doesn't reflect the statistical probability given the distribution of membership. There is a solution which is to suggest, as you did, that certain families have a higher instance of leadership talent because they have been blessed that why by good. This was an argument that was used by early Church leaders when this practice was rampant. The problem is, claiming that the "Smith" family is more righteous than the general population has certain PR ramifications.
To me, the only real problem are some members and non-members falsely and judgementily assuming that Church callings are necessarily an indication of "righteousness" and "goodness" (rather than on one's ability to fulfill the calling), and focusing too much on who is called (or not) to certain positions, rather than on how we each can best serve mankind whatever our lot or station in life. Those intent on the latter will likely care less what the presumed statistical breakout of close relationships, since they have far more important things to occupy their minds and actions.
Thanks, -Wade Englund-
that's not a response wade, its a dodge and a very poor one at that. You fail. Try again.
I am fine with you not getting it, and am content leaving it at that.
Thanks, -Wade Englund-
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moksha wrote:Who is the new Apostle related to?
According to Quinn's 2nd Hierarchy book, no one.
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
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Re: Nepotism alert from GC ....
wenglund wrote:Rollo Tomasi wrote:Thomas Monson's daughter, Ann Dibb, called as 2nd counselor in Young Women's gen'l presidency;
Boyd Packer's son, Allan, called as GA to 1st Quorum of Seventy;
Henry Eyring' s son, Matthew, called as Area Authority Seventy;
Any others that I missed?
God the Father called his Son, Jesus Christ, to head his church and kingdom on earth. Like some here, the Scribes and Pharisees had a problem with that--particularly when Christ proclaimed this truth during his mortal ministry.
Thanks, -Wade Englund-
Hmmm
I think this might be a tad be teeny weeny like a bit different here. Well just ya know, I think this is a poor comparison.