silentkid wrote: Hi AOAP. I was simply wondering why it would matter if Scratch was female. Does this make his/her arguments less meaningful? Do you and Bob not take women seriously? Bob seems preoccupied with this train of thought. Now you comment on it. What's the point of this "theory"?
I hardly call about six words on the subject preoccupation. Forget that I said it. You are right, and I agree, there is no point to the observation.
Apparently, silentkid wants to make more out of it than I ever did. (PS- Sorry, silentkid, but the kids at the local Jr. High haven't gotten back to me yet with that clever name change for you yet.)
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
I asked you what I thought was a sincere question: Does Mr. Scratch's gender matter? Bob answered the question.
I already answered. I said it was interesting given Scratch's online persona and seeming penchant for anonymity.
You, on the other hand, decided to start this little tit-for-tat game that I no longer wish to play.
Whoa, there, didn't silentkid get the ball rolling with his clever "AOAP" jab? Now we're starting into the "you started it game."
I apologize for making fun of your screen name.
thanks, I sincerely appreciate it. But I started nothing with you, Jared.
Please don't take the time out of your precious schedule to enlist the help of your 13 year-old neighbor to make fun of mine. It wouldn't be worth it.
I'll keep them posted, it might come in handy later. [/quote]
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
Mister Scratch wrote: Hey, Bob---where's your evidence that the "Spy Ring" was student-run? What's your "best cite"? I will be waiting patiently for you to enlighten me.
I gave them to you above. Prince has done the best work on the subject by far.
So you own a copy of the book, then? Because I don't. It'd be really nice if you cite the text and page number where Prince states the the "spy ring" was completely student-run. Thanks in advance.
Which Prince book?
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
LifeOnaPlate wrote:Whoa, there, didn't silentkid get the ball rolling with his clever "AOAP" jab? Now we're starting into the "you started it game."
Actually, my initial negative comment was in response to your rude, "What's it to you?" comment. I felt that it was unwarranted and responded in kind. Also, please don't use my in real life name unless I can use yours. Thanks.
rcrocket wrote:I gave them to you above. Prince has done the best work on the subject by far. His work was peer-reviewed.
Are you referring to Greg Prince's McKay bio? If so, I'll check my copy tonight.
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
LifeOnaPlate wrote:Whoa, there, didn't silentkid get the ball rolling with his clever "AOAP" jab? Now we're starting into the "you started it game."
Actually, my initial negative comment was in response to your rude, "What's it to you?" comment. I felt that it was unwarranted and responded in kind. Also, please don't use my in real life name unless I can use yours. Thanks.
Mine isn't hard to find, my friend. Around here, though, your name is liable to get you spied on. Threads start appearing with names and addresses, private information and the like. It's almost like the board has some group of spies who are sent to gather such information.
And you are right, I did start the whole escapade with a more-than-necessary flip remark! Apologies.
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
rcrocket wrote:You're just weak. It is not unreasonable for somebody to ask for the very best cite to support an assertion. It is unreasonable to respond with: Do you homework, or it doesn't matter what I cite, you'll reject it.
No, Bob. You are the weak-minded fool who is eager to defend your magician-puppet masters to your dying breath. You have your head so far up your ass that you refuse to entertain any evidence regarding the man behind the curtain. You like that curtain pulled nice and tight against the wall so that you can't look behind it. In fact, you will gladly hold it shut just because someone else told you to. It is a waste of time interacting with you because you have no honest interest in facts or arguments that don't line up with your Mormon perspective.
rcrocket wrote:I am interested in two of your assertions, however. What is the very best cite for the proposition that a Church committee currently ferrets out and excommunicates homosexuals, and what is your very best cite for the proposition that stake presidents are told to lie about it? Is there truth to these assertions? Do you have some primary sources rather than just suppositional essays?
More evidence that you are a brainless idiot. Did you shake up my statements in your hat and then string them together in the random order they fell out? Where exactly did I make the claims you are attributing to me here? I will provide you citations when you learn how to interpret what you read at all accurately. Are you sure you aren't a 9 year old kid? Rarely have I seen such poor reading skills in a person who tries to represent himself as a mature, educated, and successful adult. Go take some remedial reading courses, then come back and talk to me.
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rcrocket wrote:I gave them to you above. Prince has done the best work on the subject by far. His work was peer-reviewed.
Are you referring to Greg Prince's McKay bio? If so, I'll check my copy tonight.
Yes, he was talking about the McKay bio, though he's yet to supply text and/or a page number. I wonder why? Regardless, I'd def. be interested in what you found, Rollo.
rcrocket wrote:I gave them to you above. Prince has done the best work on the subject by far. His work was peer-reviewed.
Are you referring to Greg Prince's McKay bio? If so, I'll check my copy tonight.
Yes, he was talking about the McKay bio, though he's yet to supply text and/or a page number. I wonder why? Regardless, I'd def. be interested in what you found, Rollo.
I looked at it last night. It was strictly about the spying episode in the 1960's at BYU (the one during McKay's lifetime, which makes sense since it's his bio) with regard to political liberals; it had nothing to do with homosexuals or other 'undesirables.' Yet, a political spy ring tried to make a comeback at BYU in 1977 (squashed by the Brethren); it's not mentioned in McKay's bio, either. I think Bob believes the only spying at BYU was the political one in the 1960's, which clearly (according to Prince) was instigated and/or endorsed by the BYU administration (and perhaps higher).
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
rcrocket wrote:I gave them to you above. Prince has done the best work on the subject by far. His work was peer-reviewed.
Are you referring to Greg Prince's McKay bio? If so, I'll check my copy tonight.
Yes, he was talking about the McKay bio, though he's yet to supply text and/or a page number. I wonder why? Regardless, I'd def. be interested in what you found, Rollo.
I looked at it last night. It was strictly about the spying episode in the 1960's at BYU (the one during McKay's lifetime, which makes sense since it's his bio) with regard to political liberals; it had nothing to do with homosexuals or other 'undesirables.' Yet, a political spy ring tried to make a comeback at BYU in 1977 (squashed by the Brethren); it's not mentioned in McKay's bio, either. I think Bob believes the only spying at BYU was the political one in the 1960's, which clearly (according to Prince) was instigated and/or endorsed by the BYU administration (and perhaps higher).
I rather thought so. The claim that this whole affair was purely "student-run" seemed an awful big stretch to me, considering the climate at BYU. Probably Bob will be taking a bit of a break from the board at this point, in order to lick his wounds.