Oh look! Another rich white lawyer called as Apostle

[_harmony]

Who cares about skin color? I'm waiting for the day a woman is called to the 12! Then our leaders will be true prophets, seers and revelators!

[_Rollo Tomasi]

I mean WOW! Who could have predicted that?

As an added bonus, he was born and raised LDS in Utah county and now live in Sandy.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,51 ... 89,00.html

LDS Inc knows which side of the bread to butter... the white side.
Until the brown tithing becomes significant, they will never get representation in the 12 apostles.

Let me offer some of my thoughts on Todd Christofferson, whom I have known since he was fresh out of law school:

1. He really is a good guy -- he doesn't suck up to anyone and anywhere he's gotten in life has been based on the merits (i.e., he's not related to any GA's or of Mormon royalty); he's just very talented at what he does.

2. He's a very humble guy, just as he appears at the podium.

3. I don't think he's rich; he doesn't come from money and although he did well professionally, he was called as a full-time GA at age 48, before he could make a ton of money; I would consider him upper middle class like many of us.

4. He was born in Utah, but grew up in New Jersey. After he graduated from BYU and until he was called as a GA (about a 25-year period), he never lived in Utah, but in the Eastern part of the U.S. They lived in relatively humble circumstances -- no fancy houses or cars. It was more important to him to have a house close to the subway to commute to work, than to live in a big house in a high priced area.

I agree he is white male, but I was pleased with the choice because I know what a good person he is. Just my $.02.

[_Jason Bourne]

oh I don't know. BKP started out from pretty humble beginnings and entered pre CES as a seminary teacher.

In other words: he has been a "company man" from the get-go.

True. As was President Hinckley who worked for the Church from the end of hnis mission forward as was Monson who worked for the Deseret News.

Sure, there's "some" diversity, but, oddly, none of the sort I mentioned. I just find it striking that all of the Brethren come from successful secular backgrounds. Where are the fishermen, the carpenters, the working-class apostles? These were the sort of folks who got called during the days of Christ's ministry. Clearly, some kind of "shift" has taken place. Today, it seems that material success is a more important requirement for apostleship than spiritual giftedness.

It seems like it. Even in the 19th century LDS Church he had more common folk. Maybe it is die to the increasing demands of sophistication. Like it or not, it would be tough for a truck driver to meet the requirements of what an apostle does today.

[_Coggins7]

Who cares about skin color? I'm waiting for the day a woman is called to the 12! Then our leaders will be true prophets, seers and revelators!

Once again, they will be true when they believe as Harmony does.

My golden calf can beat up your golden calf.

[_Tal Bachman]

BCSpace, Coggins7, and Mr. Scratch are spot on here -

What color these guys are, logically, is totally pointless, whether one believes they're what they claim to be, or disbelieves.

If one believes that Joseph Smith's religion really is the only true religion ever in the entire history of the universe, so true that Jesus Christ is a member of the Mormon church, then it doesn't matter what color they are: you know God wanted them to be called, just by virtue of them being called.

And by the way, once you commit to believing that Smith, and Young, etc., were all they claimed, then Monson could have announced yesterday that he was ABOLISHING the Quorum of the 12, and it wouldn't matter to you. He could appoint his pet canary as a spiritual advisor, and believers would be undaunted. It wouldn't matter, for the same reason that nothing else matters to the true believer, but remaining in a certain psychological state in which they can believe that they know the answers to all of life's profoundest questions. It doesn't even matter that they can't coherently articulate what those answers might be; just thinking that they know them is enough. A disproprotionate number of caucasians is NOTHING.

Besides, as someone else pointed out here, it's not exactly like Joshua Josephson (Yeshua Bar-Yosef, a.ka., Jesus of Nazareth) was exactly into quota hiring. He wouldn't even let his followers preach to the Gentiles. He once compared Samaritans to "dogs". How many out-group folks did HE ask to be amongst his disciples? NONE.

Conversely, if one doesn't believe that Smith's religion is the only true religion in the universe, then...who the hell cares? They could all be Puerto Rican midgets. Who cares? The point is that black, white, giant, midget, siamese twins - none of them would be what they claimed to be. To get upset, then, over "lack of representation" in a completely fraudulent body, is like complaining that there aren't more white people in Louis Farrakhan's top councils, or maybe better, that there aren't more tall people working in Santa's workshop. It's all phoney baloney anyway, so who the hell cares?

[_solomarineris]

It's obvious that the most qualified candidates for prophets and apostles live in Utah.

Damn right! And it ain't gonna change any time soon, deal with it!