Dr. Shades wrote:wenglund wrote:No...I don't believe you did see. In fact, I can't find the least indication in your irrelevant investment analogy where you at all see what I meant by my relevant teacher analogy.
The reason the investment analogy is completely relevant--whereas your teacher analogy is wholly irrelevant--is because to join Mormonism is to embark on a lifetime of investment of money, time, and effort.
So tell us, Wade: If someone wanting you to give him money to invest on your behalf was ever in jail, is his jail term pertinent to your decision to give him money? Why or why not? And who should decide if the jail term is pertinent--you, or him? Why?
There are several reaons why your "investment" analogy isn't relevant and my teaching analogy is:
1. The issue of "pertinence" is regarding what "facts" the Church should TEACH investigators and members in their respective LESSONS, and not what facts should be disclosed in an offer of an investment deal.
2. The "facts" that the Church is to TEACH are regarding the restored gospel of Christ, and not some financial INVESTMENT scheme.
3. The Church TEACHES a number of LESSONS to both investigators and members, and not a one-time investment offer.
4. The restored gospel of Christ that is being TAUGHT by the Church relates to personal growth, which is contingient upon personal effort, and whatever personal commitments are made (financial comitments only being one of several), are made incrementally and are contingient upon the individuals growth and faith in the restored gospel, and not a one-time investment scheme the success of which is dependant upon others.
5. The end objective of the LESSONS is to bring people to Christ and to enable them to become like Christ, and not some financial winfall.
Really, with your background in the Church, I don't know why this isn't obvious to you.
Thanks, -Wade Englund-