Mister Scratch wrote:by the way: I find The Good Professor's claims vis-a-vis his "unwillingness" to go and find this supposed remark on Gee to be rather disingenuous. It was just within the last week that DCP was sneaking around on the board, logging in and playing puppet master via PMs in order to try and curry favor with certain board participants.
Details?
It starts with GoodK. As you'll know if you've been following the board (cf. the "Church Surveillance" thread for more on this), DCP attempted to "rat out" GoodK to his folks via email. As I recall, The Good Professor sent an email to GoodK's father, complaining that GoodK was posting under the nom de guerre "Chap" (which, of course, was totally wrong; it just goes to show that DCP has no shame in making wild guesses in order to smear his opposition). Later, our very own beloved Trevor stated that he found DCP's behavior in all of this "disgusting." Apparently, Prof. P. logged on to this board just in order to send a PM to Trevor. It seems this was done in an effort to convince Trevor that said behavior was not, after all, "disgusting."
I'm also guessing that in this case there was probably no need to make anything up. Such an accusation would be mild on many anti boards.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
Have any of you met Dr. Peterson? I have and I find him to be honest and trustworthy. I don't agree with some of his beliefs, I don't believe that some of his conclusions are correct. I do know after watching him speak on a few occasions he is passionate about his beliefs and I trust that he has a true faith in in the LDS Church. He's a good guy, I have no doubt that that is what he read, possibly not exact as it was from memory. I've seen him debate with many people and to be honest not one could stand up to his intellect and wit. I would like to see him on this board it would raise the bar.
RockHeaded wrote:Have any of you met Dr. Peterson? I have and I find him to be honest and trustworthy. I don't agree with some of his beliefs, I don't believe that some of his conclusions are correct. I do know after watching him speak on a few occasions he is passionate about his beliefs and I trust that he has a true faith in in the LDS Church. He's a good guy, I have no doubt that that is what he read, possibly not exact as it was from memory.
I've seen him speak, too, RockHeaded. He comes across (to me, anyhow) as a jovial and well-spoken LDS Buddha, I guess. He seems friendly and witty, etc. However, I have always noted a malicious glimmer in his gaze. Many people have observed that there appears to be a disconnect between his online and public personae. I guess this may be true, though some overlap is no doubt inevitable.
I've seen him debate with many people and to be honest not one could stand up to his intellect and wit. I would like to see him on this board it would raise the bar.
RockHeaded
He's been on this board before, and he was very badly defeated and embarrassed. For now, all he can do is lick his wounds and fire volleys from the safety and protection of the aptly named MADboard.
Mister Scratch wrote: He's been on this board before, and he was very badly defeated and embarrassed. For now, all he can do is lick his wounds and fire volleys from the safety and protection of the aptly named MADboard.
Like I say, only an idiot would be persuaded by a rherotician whose basic tool is to repeatedly declare victory. But, then once again, you are preaching to the choir.
I think somebody indeed made the claim, but I think it's being exaggerated a little. To whit:
Whoever made that claim was probably referring to Gee's mopologetic endeavors, which indeed appear to be a joke to non-Mormon Egyptologists (and to a great many non-Mormons in general, Egyptologists or otherwise).
Yet I highly doubt that the original claim-maker thinks that Gee is a joke in all cases. I'm sure he or she would admit that Gee sticks to his credentials and professionalism when dealing with legitimate Egyptological studies that are unrelated to Mormon claims.
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"
Mister Scratch wrote:However, I have always noted a malicious glimmer in his gaze. Many people have observed that there appears to be a disconnect between his online and public personae.
I doubt that Dr. Peterson has a "malicious glimmer" in his eyes, or that he is intentionally lying about anything. (Incidentally, I didn't vote in my own poll. This thread was more intended to get his attention and make him make the first move, so I wouldn't get banned if I called him to the carpet over there.) But I have noticed that he tends to assume the very worst about anti-Mormons and to exaggerate their malice and dishonesty towards him and the Church. I think it's worthwhile to bring this tendency to his attention.
RockHeaded wrote:Have any of you met Dr. Peterson? I have and I find him to be honest and trustworthy. I don't agree with some of his beliefs, I don't believe that some of his conclusions are correct. I do know after watching him speak on a few occasions he is passionate about his beliefs and I trust that he has a true faith in in the LDS Church. He's a good guy, I have no doubt that that is what he read, possibly not exact as it was from memory. I've seen him debate with many people and to be honest not one could stand up to his intellect and wit. I would like to see him on this board it would raise the bar.
RockHeaded
Has he met any of us? Pot, meet Kettle. Sauce goose, sauce gander.
Along another line, I'm sure you didn't mean to say he has faith in the LDS church. Even I didn't go that far. I think his faith is in God and Jesus Christ. His problem is, he wears the facade of a true believer, but his actions speak louder than his words. True believers don't do or say what he does and says.
Mister Scratch wrote:I've seen him speak, too, RockHeaded. He comes across (to me, anyhow) as a jovial and well-spoken LDS Buddha, I guess. He seems friendly and witty, etc. However, I have always noted a malicious glimmer in his gaze. Many people have observed that there appears to be a disconnect between his online and public personae. I guess this may be true, though some overlap is no doubt inevitable.
Warning: Malicious glimmer in man's eye spotted by anonymous internet correspondent who spends much of their time chronicling/stalking the online and offline activities of man one.
There should be a poll as to who is more likely to be sinister.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
Mister Scratch wrote:However, I have always noted a malicious glimmer in his gaze. Many people have observed that there appears to be a disconnect between his online and public personae.
I doubt that Dr. Peterson has a "malicious glimmer" in his eyes, or that he is intentionally lying about anything. (Incidentally, I didn't vote in my own poll. This thread was more intended to get his attention and make him make the first move, so I wouldn't get banned if I called him to the carpet over there.) But I have noticed that he tends to assume the very worst about anti-Mormons and to exaggerate their malice and dishonesty towards him and the Church. I think it's worthwhile to bring this tendency to his attention.
In fairness then to Dr. Peterson I think even you can admit that there are some anti-Mormon writers that do stretch the truth, give half truths, and give quotes out of context. If there is one thing that I hate most is people that preach their religion and talk about why others are incorrect but only giving part of the story so that the reader or listener well see it their way. This is dishonest and these people IMHO aren't really Christian. When talking about religion, belief in God etc... , it's not a debate for politics this is about each persons soul. We all want to get it right and deception to gain followers or to cause someone to lose faith, that's disgusting. So with that said I can see why he would feel that way. But I do agree it should be brought to his attention as no everyone that doesn't believe in the Mormon church is anti-Mormon or dishonest.