Is Daniel Fibbing? (You Decide!)

[_Mister Scratch]

He's been on this board before, and he was very badly defeated and embarrassed. For now, all he can do is lick his wounds and fire volleys from the safety and protection of the aptly named MADboard.

Like I say, only an idiot would be persuaded by a rherotician whose basic tool is to repeatedly declare victory. But, then once again, you are preaching to the choir.

I don't need to "declare victory," Bob. Feel free to look up any of the thread in which DCP and I exchanged arguments. The end result is the same in every case: Prof. P. refuses to straightforwardly answer my questions; DCP refuses to admit when he's been corneres; DCP dishes out a lot of personal attack and insults; DCP flees the scene. This stuff happens almost like clockwork.

[_RockHeaded]

Have any of you met Dr. Peterson? I have and I find him to be honest and trustworthy. I don't agree with some of his beliefs, I don't believe that some of his conclusions are correct. I do know after watching him speak on a few occasions he is passionate about his beliefs and I trust that he has a true faith in in the LDS Church. He's a good guy, I have no doubt that that is what he read, possibly not exact as it was from memory. I've seen him debate with many people and to be honest not one could stand up to his intellect and wit. I would like to see him on this board it would raise the bar.

RockHeaded

Has he met any of us? Pot, meet Kettle. Sauce goose, sauce gander.

Along another line, I'm sure you didn't mean to say he has faith in the LDS church. Even I didn't go that far. I think his faith is in God and Jesus Christ. His problem is, he wears the facade of a true believer, but his actions speak louder than his words. True believers don't do or say what he does and says.

You're right Harmony he does have faith in God and Jesus Christ, but he also believes that his Church is true without any doubt (maybe that is how I should have worded it sorry for that). I do remember you on ZLMB so I know that when they had the FAIR Simposiums (sp) they would post the dates and asked who was going. If you would have went you would have met him. That is how I met him.


RockHeaded

[_Mister Scratch]

by the way, for any interested parties (and yes, that includes you, DCP---you can thank me for doing your legwork for you), here is the Gadianton/Gee post I had in mind:

I fully endorse people looking to profit for their time. I even believe that bishops should be paid. I have no problem with the fact that there is a paid apologetic force out there, but for some reason apologists do. Is it wrong to get paid for doing something you like and that you believe in?

Sure enough, many apologists are paid. John Gee was outright hired and paid as a full-time apologist. Peterson is also a paid apologist, but I realize that he's moved into the position rather than having been directly hired into it. But that's a really common thing, you know. How many people are hired and retained at their jobs under a certain title but end up taking on very different duties "not in their job description" as time goes on?

So, really, this has nothing to do with Gee being a "hack" per se. It's more about the observation that he was hired primarily as an apologist.

[_solomarineris]

Have any of you met Dr. Peterson? I have and I find him to be honest and trustworthy. I don't agree with some of his beliefs, I don't believe that some of his conclusions are correct. I do know after watching him speak on a few occasions he is passionate about his beliefs and I trust that he has a true faith in in the LDS Church. He's a good guy, I have no doubt that that is what he read, possibly not exact as it was from memory.

I've seen him debate with many people and to be honest not one could stand up to his intellect and wit. I would like to see him on this board it would raise the bar.

RockHeaded

He's been on this board before, and he was very badly defeated and embarrassed. For now, all he can do is lick his wounds and fire volleys from the safety and protection of the aptly named MADboard.

Rockheaded;
What DCP wrote over the years in FAIR and boards like this makes it very clear this man is an "Intellectual coward". As Mr. Scratch says he cannot stand to any heat of criticism, he runs away seeks protection of MADd board.
Mr. Scratch is right on the money when he says DCP is a Tattle Tale, he shamelessly monitors people and when time comes backstab, he is ready with right ammo.
I agree, DCP would be a nice addition to this board but after a while he's kicked around like a Hacky Sack.

[_harmony]

But I have noticed that he tends to assume the very worst about anti-Mormons and to exaggerate their malice and dishonesty towards him and the Church. I think it's worthwhile to bring this tendency to his attention.

And yet he seldom takes his accusations to logical conclusion... that the people he perceives as anti-Mormon are also anti-God. Yet another example of conflating the two together. One can be irritated at the church while at the same time maintaining a good relationship with God. I'm not sure Daniel knows that, and if he does, he doesn't acknowledge that, when he's dismissing his perceived enemies out of hand.

One may indeed have little use for Daniel C Peterson, and make that known far and wide, while at the same time revering God and even the LDS church. Daniel tends to exaggerate. This is just one more exaggeration.

[_CaliforniaKid]

What DCP wrote over the years in FAIR and boards like this makes it very clear this man is an "Intellectual coward".

Sigh. This sort of rhetoric is at least as unproductive as anything we see from DCP or Pahoran.

[_harmony]

What DCP wrote over the years in FAIR and boards like this makes it very clear this man is an "Intellectual coward". As Mr. Scratch says he cannot stand to any heat of criticism, he runs away seeks protection of MADd board.

Actually, I think he likes MAD better because he's a God there. They revere him. He had no opposition there. It's not his argument that he's protecting; it's his person. When he comes here, he has to bear the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, and it hurts.

Mr. Scratch is right on the money when he says DCP is a Tattle Tale, he shamelessly monitors people and when time comes backstab, he is ready with right ammo.

Oh, I dunno. I wouldn't call him a tattle tale. I'd call him a spy. 007, Mormon-style (and without the great accent).

I agree, DCP would be a nice addition to this board but after a while he's kicked around like a Hacky Sack.

Which none of us would like either. He's used to being revered, so when he comes here, it's a wake up call to the real world, and that's danged hard for someone who lives in Happy Valley World to face. So he doesn't. Maybe if we were nicer to him, he'd do more than just read. I wouldn't hold my breath, waiting for that to happen, but anything's possible!

[_Imapiratewasher]

You need a poll option for, "WHO GIVES A CRUD WHERE IT CAME FROM"????

[_wenglund]

Could this poll be a blind experiment of people's LDS-related prejudices?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_The Nehor]

He's been on this board before, and he was very badly defeated and embarrassed. For now, all he can do is lick his wounds and fire volleys from the safety and protection of the aptly named MADboard.

Like I say, only an idiot would be persuaded by a rherotician whose basic tool is to repeatedly declare victory. But, then once again, you are preaching to the choir.

I don't need to "declare victory," Bob. Feel free to look up any of the thread in which DCP and I exchanged arguments. The end result is the same in every case: Prof. P. refuses to straightforwardly answer my questions; DCP refuses to admit when he's been corneres; DCP dishes out a lot of personal attack and insults; DCP flees the scene. This stuff happens almost like clockwork.

I'm sure it has nothing to do with the flood of insults he receives every time he shows up.