Polygamy caller found

[_karl61]

I completely agree with you. The only thing I was saying is I haven't seen that they've found evidence of abuse yet.

So pregnant teens and teens with multiple children isn't evidence of abuse?

you first have to rule out the male teenagers.

[_harmony]

I completely agree with you. The only thing I was saying is I haven't seen that they've found evidence of abuse yet.

So pregnant teens and teens with multiple children isn't evidence of abuse?

you first have to rule out the male teenagers.

DNA testing a wonderful thing.

[_quaker]

If they can't trace a phonecall to begin with, how do you expect them to do DNA tests?

[_Doctor Steuss]

If they can't trace a phonecall to begin with, how do you expect them to do DNA tests?

There's always Maury.



"Warren Jeffs, you are the father."




Or, you can do what I do whenever someone claims to have given birth to Steussite spawn. Do it yourself.

[_asbestosman]

DNA testing a wonderful thing.

Agreed. However, so is privacy--at least sometimes.

Yes, I would love to remove privacy in this instance to protect the children except that I would hate to live in a police state afterwards where big brother can demand to have my DNA analyzed and to enter my home as he pleases. Then again, after going through the airport last week I'm beginning to wonder if I'm not already living in a police state so maybe it wouldn't be any worse and may make things better for abuse victims. Or maybe not.

[_Dr. Shades]

So pregnant teens and teens with multiple children isn't evidence of abuse?

you first have to rule out the male teenagers.

Uh, I think they've already ruled out the male teenagers being pregnant.

[_asbestosman]

So pregnant teens and teens with multiple children isn't evidence of abuse?

you first have to rule out the male teenagers.

Uh, I think they've already ruled out the male teenagers being pregnant.

Now, now, some of them might have fetus-in-fetu or a parasitic twin.

[_truth dancer]

For any of those men who are worried law enforcement is going to come and take your children away let me give you some advice.

Don't abuse your children.

If men don't abuse their children, don't screw girls, and don't lie to CPS workers and investigators, guess what, you have nothing to worry about. No one will break down your door and steal your children.

The police are not going to come in and demand you swab your mouth for DNA testing to figure out who your offspring are. They are not going to take away your children. They are not going to invade your privacy.

OK, now y'all can stop worrying about it.


~dancer~

[Analytics]

For any of those men who are worried law enforcement is going to come and take your children away let me give you some advice.

Don't abuse your children.

If men don't abuse their children, don't screw girls, and don't lie to CPS workers and investigators, guess what, you have nothing to worry about. No one will break down your door and steal your children.

The police are not going to come in and demand you swab your mouth for DNA testing to figure out who your offspring are. They are not going to take away your children. They are not going to invade your privacy.

OK, now y'all can stop worrying about it.

Whew, I'm glad the innocent adults accused in the wenatchee child abuse cases (and similar Satanic ritual abuse case witch hunts) had nothing to worry about. Oh wait, they did have something to worry about.

[_the road to hana]

If they can't trace a phonecall to begin with, how do you expect them to do DNA tests?

They did trace calls, but it wasn't the original call, it was subsequent calls to Flora Jessop. When Flora tipped off law enforcement authorities that she was getting several calls from the same person, they ended up tracing those calls to the person described in the OP of this thread.

DNA tests? Everyone in question at the YFZ Ranch is getting one, the children and the adults. They will, if nothing else, match these kids to their biological parents in order to sort out this sordid mass.

I'm in disagreement with Tal. I believe abuse is obvious here, regardless of the source of the original or subsequent calls. If underage children are being engaged in sexual activity, religion or no religion, that's abuse. And taking all the children is appropriate until they get it sorted, particularly when the mothers were playing shell game with the children.