PR nightmare trifecta
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_Coca Cola
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I used to seriously believe that any press, bad or good, for the church would ultimately invite more people to learn about the church and therefore be converted to the truth. I thought any bad reports would backfire on Satan and ultimately work towards the good of the church, i.e., more converts.
Of course, this was before I had any inkling of the church's embarassing history, or the DNA issue, or the Book of Abraham, or blood atonement. I stayed away from internet websites dealing with church issues as a conscious choice. I didn't want to expose myself to anything that would threaten my testimony. I was lovingly warned by friends and family members not to delve into these issues. Knowing I must follow the living prophet above all else, although I am a heavy user of the internet, I never looked at any controversial sites.
I can see now where any investigator, with no fear of what they find or reluctance to shake a testimony, can read about this issues at the click of a mouse.
Yes, the great age of good church publicity is coming to a close. It can't withstand the scrutiny.
Of course, this was before I had any inkling of the church's embarassing history, or the DNA issue, or the Book of Abraham, or blood atonement. I stayed away from internet websites dealing with church issues as a conscious choice. I didn't want to expose myself to anything that would threaten my testimony. I was lovingly warned by friends and family members not to delve into these issues. Knowing I must follow the living prophet above all else, although I am a heavy user of the internet, I never looked at any controversial sites.
I can see now where any investigator, with no fear of what they find or reluctance to shake a testimony, can read about this issues at the click of a mouse.
Yes, the great age of good church publicity is coming to a close. It can't withstand the scrutiny.
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_Imapiratewasher
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_Mercury
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Coca Cola wrote:I used to seriously believe that any press, bad or good, for the church would ultimately invite more people to learn about the church and therefore be converted to the truth. I thought any bad reports would backfire on Satan and ultimately work towards the good of the church, I.e., more converts.
Of course, this was before I had any inkling of the church's embarassing history, or the DNA issue, or the Book of Abraham, or blood atonement. I stayed away from internet websites dealing with church issues as a conscious choice. I didn't want to expose myself to anything that would threaten my testimony. I was lovingly warned by friends and family members not to delve into these issues. Knowing I must follow the living prophet above all else, although I am a heavy user of the internet, I never looked at any controversial sites.
I can see now where any investigator, with no fear of what they find or reluctance to shake a testimony, can read about this issues at the click of a mouse.
Yes, the great age of good church publicity is coming to a close. It can't withstand the scrutiny.
that's how pro-movement propaganda works. It lulls you into a false sense of security so those who control said propaganda can own the "conversation".
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Some insects called the human race
Lost in time
And lost in space...and meaning
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_The Nehor
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Re: PR nightmare trifecta
Mercury wrote:Then why do they spend gobs of money proving your point wrong?
Arrogant one line snarky replies don't cut the muster for quality posts in my book. Arrogant one liners are only allowed if they are both true and cutting.
Neor, how do you feel about your tithing going to PR firms? If you feel strongly about this, petition salt lake to have this enlightening point of view also practiced. Oh, that's right..you can't address them directly.
Because it's not our job to villify ourselves. We outsource that job to people like you. You've been slacking off with all the good PR we've been getting. They spend gobs of money in the hope of it's influence saving someone. I think their goal is a good one. I have just expected for years for the good publicity to end. This might be it.
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_Scottie
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Coca Cola wrote:I used to seriously believe that any press, bad or good, for the church would ultimately invite more people to learn about the church and therefore be converted to the truth. I thought any bad reports would backfire on Satan and ultimately work towards the good of the church, I.e., more converts.
Of course, this was before I had any inkling of the church's embarassing history, or the DNA issue, or the Book of Abraham, or blood atonement. I stayed away from internet websites dealing with church issues as a conscious choice. I didn't want to expose myself to anything that would threaten my testimony. I was lovingly warned by friends and family members not to delve into these issues. Knowing I must follow the living prophet above all else, although I am a heavy user of the internet, I never looked at any controversial sites.
I can see now where any investigator, with no fear of what they find or reluctance to shake a testimony, can read about this issues at the click of a mouse.
Yes, the great age of good church publicity is coming to a close. It can't withstand the scrutiny.
Good thing there are still lots of 3rd world areas without computers that the church can prey on.
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_The Nehor
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Scottie wrote:Good thing there are still lots of 3rd world areas without computers that the church can prey on.
I wonder why we bother. We send more money to those areas then we could ever collect. I say call it off.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics
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_Scottie
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The Nehor wrote:Scottie wrote:Good thing there are still lots of 3rd world areas without computers that the church can prey on.
I wonder why we bother. We send more money to those areas then we could ever collect. I say call it off.
Nehor, you're talking out of your a** again. You have no idea how much money is taken or given to any area AT ALL.
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_Some Schmo
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Scottie wrote:It certainly doesn't help the cause to see FLDS wives, with their hair in braided, looping ponytails, in their pioneer dresses on national TV, while being classified as "Mormons".
My MIL was saying yesterday that she was completely disgusted watching them. Yeah, it doesn't bode well for Mormons everywhere.
When I watched them, all I felt was pity. I mean, is there much to distinguish those women from Amish folks, for instance? If they aren't brainwashed, then that term has no meaning at all.
Side note: watching those news casts looking around their compound, I thought it was pretty funny seeing the pictures of all their prophets on the walls like I remember back when I went to church, except that the familiar faces ended with Brig'em Young. It's funny how their legacies are pretty similar in many respects. The biggest differences exist mostly in members' heads. At least the fundies have an excuse for their brainwashing (growing up in utter isolation).
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_Coca Cola
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Actually the "LDS Prophets" in their prophet pics ended with Lorenzo Snow. They believe in the first three LDS prophets, because they supported and practiced polygamy. It's Wilford Woodruff that they stop including, and switch over to their own guys. So the first three pics in that row of "FLDS Prophets" are Brigham Young, John Taylor, and Lorenzo Snow.
edit much later: oops, I meant the first four LDS prophets, ie: Joseph Smith, BY, JT, and LS. The three came from the first three photos on that FLDS guy's wall, which started with BY.
edit much later: oops, I meant the first four LDS prophets, ie: Joseph Smith, BY, JT, and LS. The three came from the first three photos on that FLDS guy's wall, which started with BY.
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