LDS Church Misrepresents the Truth in FLDS Response

[_asbestosman]

The only difference between you the LDS man and the FLDS man is that he may have more than one wife. All of the other beliefs are identical.

Blacks and the priesthood?
D&C 138?
Length of garments?
Other temple changes?
What to do with young men? (i.e. the lost boys).

[_Boaz & Lidia]

The only difference between you the LDS man and the FLDS man is that he may have more than one wife. All of the other beliefs are identical.

Blacks and the priesthood?
D&C 138?
Length of garments?
Other temple changes?
What to do with young men? (I.e. the lost boys).

Is that all you can come up with?

[_asbestosman]

Is that all you can come up with?

Why don't you make a list of differences between Catholics and Lutherans off the top of your head and then we'll compare.

[_neworder]

"erroneous to base any request for assistance from members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on the basis that our beliefs and practices are close to those of this polygamous group because they are not." .

Give me a break.

They pretty much have the exact same beliefs as the LDS. Every single doctrine and belief is or was taught in the LDS Church at one point. Their practices are pretty close to the same also. They keep the same beliefs when they split and it was the SLC based church that started to change how they practice their religion (the doctrines pretty much stayed the same all these years.)

I don't think the FLDS church has announced any new doctrine that has added to Joseph Smith's Restored Gospel.

The LDS Church does not want anything to do with the FLDS because it hits a little to close to home I think. If this was some Fundamental Christian Group, they would have no problem sending out LDS Family Services if they could help.

The Name and Reputation of the Church comes first before people.

[_beastie]

Do FLDS have the same prayer mantra that LDS do? You know..."Dear Heavenly Father. We thank thee for this food. Please bless it to be nourishing and strengthening to our bodies. Please bless that we will have a good day and keep us safe. Inthnamufjesuschrisamen."

I suspect that the prayer they are referring to is actually a prayer circle, as conducted in LDS temples. In the early days of the LDS church, members often used the prayer circle in their own homes. I don't remember when the practice was stopped. Since the FLDS seem to retain many of these early practices, I would guess this is what is going on.

[_Roger Morrison]

Try as they will, I don't think there IS any LDS finger big enough to fill the hole in this dike. Much information un/little known by Mark&Molly Mormon is "hitting-the-fan" daily.

Some dating back to the Brighamite split from the Josephites. Utah Mormons vs Missouri Mormons. The altered DC 132 long after Joseph Smith death et al... Of course the credibilty of any this can be questioned...

BUT the relationship between FLDS and LDS is so obvious that for LDSism to deny the reality of their kinship is blatant dishonesty. ALL is not well in Zion... Roger

[_truth dancer]

The very fact that LDS and FLDS use the same unique scriptures, different from the rest of the world makes the religions kissin' cousins. :-)

Who else knows the history of the FLDS church going back to the days of their founder Joseph Smith?

Who else knows the hymns?

Who else wears underwear with various symbols in specific places?

Who else obeys the WoW, (although it may be more strict in the FLDS.. I'm not sure).

Who else gets the idea of obedience to a living prophet who is the spokesperson for God?

Who else gets the temple ceremonies?

Who else even remotely gets the sealing idea?

Who else has a history of modern day polygamy in their family ancestry?

Who else believes God is having sex with multiple women in heaven?

What other Western religion believes in polygamy (even if they claim they do not currently engage in the practice)?

We could go on and on and on.

LDS folks are most clearly the ones who could best relate to this group...

Having said this, unless Beastie is correct and their prayers are based on the prayer circle idea, I'm not sure why there is a need for any particular religious group to be the monitors.



~dancer~

[_solomarineris]

"being Christian," they should step up to the plate and act like part of the community and be their brother's keeper.

Helloo? Where do live? What time period you're in? (In AD50 perhaps). Maybe you envision LaLa Land and appropriate
behavior but this is 21'st century, if you are a Big Corporation like LDS Church, you stay way away from this kinda muck.
They did the right thing. As the s*** hits the fan from every angle, it is hard enough to stay in business, protect assets;
I wouldn't touch this issue with ten foot pole

[_Roger Morrison]

Hey TD, yeah:

I'm not sure why there is a need for any particular religious group to be the monitors.
~dancer~

Like why, eh? To see if they use appropriate "Prayer Language"? Pray to the correct dieity?

As for your other comments, soooo toooo true! It IS more apparent every day that SLC LDS Officialdom is very out of touch with the transparency of modernity. Authoritarianism is not in vogue as in their hey-day, of simply pronouncing and having absolute acceptance & obedience of the faithful. Today's better/broader educated "faithful" have improved "sonar equipment" than previous generations.

Tis time that LDS Mormonism accepts the vagaries of their past, admit their deceptions in the present--"Only True Church", leader IS God-annointed, faithful LDS will create & rule "Worlds without end"--and prepare its members to enjoy a fullness of life, here and now, free of guilt, anxiety and the financial burden of creating wealth for the world's richest Church per capita.

LDS have better programs than they have doctrine. Take the programs out, and LDSism falls. Revamp the doctrine & antiquated policies and something good could emerge, IMSCO. Warm regards, Roger

[_the road to hana]

Do FLDS have the same prayer mantra that LDS do? You know..."Dear Heavenly Father. We thank thee for this food. Please bless it to be nourishing and strengthening to our bodies. Please bless that we will have a good day and keep us safe. Inthnamufjesuschrisamen."

I suspect that the prayer they are referring to is actually a prayer circle, as conducted in LDS temples. In the early days of the LDS church, members often used the prayer circle in their own homes. I don't remember when the practice was stopped. Since the FLDS seem to retain many of these early practices, I would guess this is what is going on.

beastie, my understanding is this is private prayer, and that it has nothing to do with a prayer circle.