LDS Church Misrepresents the Truth in FLDS Response

[_asbestosman]

I'm suspicious of the whole thing. I tend to think the FLDS just want to meet privately so they can tell their kids what to say.

That's a significant concern. How about my concern that CPS is going to coach the FLDS kids about what to say? I'm not saying that CPS is trying to do anything wrong, but it is my understanding that this sort of thing happened with the Satanic Ritual Abuse scares of earlier decades.

Do I think abuse was happening in this case? Yes, but I am not sure about how widespread it is. I fear that suspicions will lead to kids being coached and innocent people punished, even unintentionally. One way of getting a child to testify about something that never happened is to repeatedly question the child about it or so I've heard.

[_the road to hana]

Why would the FLDS want the LDS church to monitor prayers for the FLDS when the LDS church excommunicated them and/or their ancestors?

I don't think it had, or has, anything to do with what the FLDS want.

Seems the LDS Church is at minimum hostile to the FLDS.

That's apparent. But it's doubtful the judge knew that beforehand.

[_the road to hana]

I'm suspicious of the whole thing. I tend to think the FLDS just want to meet privately so they can tell their kids what to say.

That's a significant concern. How about my concern that CPS is going to coach the FLDS kids about what to say? I'm not saying that CPS is trying to do anything wrong, but it is my understanding that this sort of thing happened with the Satanic Ritual Abuse scares of earlier decades.

Do I think abuse was happening in this case? Yes, but I am not sure about how widespread it is. I fear that suspicions will lead to kids being coached and innocent people punished, even unintentionally. One way of getting a child to testify about something that never happened is to repeatedly question the child about it or so I've heard.

So, would you act as a liason or a buffer or a consultant in the case if asked, and available, and it weren't a hardship to you to be there? Do you think your experience with Mormonism would be a plus?

[_asbestosman]

So, would you act as a liason or a buffer or a consultant in the case if asked, and available, and it weren't a hardship to you to be there? Do you think your experience with Mormonism would be a plus?

Are you asking if I'd be a buffer between CPS and the children? If I didn't think the FLDS resented me more than others then yes, and while I think it might help a bit, I would still worry about how to ensure kids do properly testify. If all it takes is repeated questioning, then it may be very difficult. All I could really do would be to help document what happened with the children to help figure out whether anything may have unduly influenced the testimonies of those children.

No, I think Mormonism puts me at a disadvantage since the FLDS seem to like us less than they do other outsiders.

[_beastie]

That's a significant concern. How about my concern that CPS is going to coach the FLDS kids about what to say? I'm not saying that CPS is trying to do anything wrong, but it is my understanding that this sort of thing happened with the Satanic Ritual Abuse scares of earlier decades.

Do I think abuse was happening in this case? Yes, but I am not sure about how widespread it is. I fear that suspicions will lead to kids being coached and innocent people punished, even unintentionally. One way of getting a child to testify about something that never happened is to repeatedly question the child about it or so I've heard.

Yes, that's a legitimate concern as well.

But I will say that I think significant progress has been made in the last decade or so in regards to avoiding leading questions. Even teachers are taught not to ask leading or repeated questions when we have concerns about a child's safety. We know to be very cautious. It's frustrating to be that cautious, sometimes, because children are usually so reluctant to speak out, but reality does demand it.

My comment was mainly in response to the charge that FLDS attorneys were making, ie, that FLDS were being harassed in some way during prayer services. I am extremely skeptical of that claim. The only type of prayer I could imagine Mormons/Mormon offshoots not wanting anyone to even see would be the prayer circle, but since it is mothers and children, that's probably not what it is. So I'm skeptical of the whole issue.

[_asbestosman]

but since it is mothers and children, that's probably not what it is. So I'm skeptical of the whole issue.

I thought that the mothers who were still with their children were only with children who were quite young. Are these young children even old enough to testify? I had thought the majority ofwere still nursing and therefore probably have an extremely limited ability to talk. I would think at the very least that nobody should worry about a mother praying alone with her 1-year old child so long as there is no danger of abuse. Do they at least allow this?

[_solomarineris]

"being Christian," they should step up to the plate and act like part of the community and be their brother's keeper.

Helloo? Where do you live? What time period you're in? (In AD50 perhaps). Maybe you envision LaLa Land and appropriate
behavior but this is 21'st century, if you are a Big Corporation like LDS Church, you stay way away from this kinda muck.
They did the right thing. As the s*** hits the fan from every angle, it is hard enough to stay in business, protect assets;
I wouldn't touch this issue with ten foot pole