Historical Mormonism is a mystery cult?

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Historical Mormonism is a mystery cult?

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All mystery cults and secret organizations consist of interweaving narratives that are then flipped on their heads. The Hashashin are a good example.

I got to thinking about this while reading the 'Book of Mormon says no polyg' thread. It also says no secret combinations which as a definitionfit the profile fo the Calling and Election Made Sure process. One thing that I get is that the jole was on the common dupe.

Any long con works like this.

I say Historical Mormonism because the process changed over time and the motivations changed as well. Why does the LDS church use the same construction company to do most of the LDS corporations development work? Is there a bidding process? Who profits from this? If I am mistaken in this please specifically correct me.

What I am getting at here is the core nature within all secret organizations, a disdain for the rules and an insatiable urge to profit somehow from the misuse of power. Whether it be by getting tail or money obtained through a well connected clique of families who feed off of each others access to a cult.
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I'd tell you I'm in a cult but I'm not supposed to.

oops
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LifeOnaPlate wrote:I'd tell you I'm in a cult but I'm not supposed to.

oops


Do you want to add anything to the discussion or just troll?

Here is something for you to meditate on:

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I count at least one typo in your graphic.

Ten points if you can point it out in the next 5 minutes.
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Re: Historical Mormonism is a mystery cult?

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Mercury wrote:All mystery cults and secret organizations consist of interweaving narratives that are then flipped on their heads. The Hashashin are a good example.

I got to thinking about this while reading the 'Book of Mormon says no polyg' thread. It also says no secret combinations which as a definitionfit the profile fo the Calling and Election Made Sure process. One thing that I get is that the jole was on the common dupe.

Any long con works like this.

I say Historical Mormonism because the process changed over time and the motivations changed as well. Why does the LDS church use the same construction company to do most of the LDS corporations development work? Is there a bidding process? Who profits from this? If I am mistaken in this please specifically correct me.

What I am getting at here is the core nature within all secret organizations, a disdain for the rules and an insatiable urge to profit somehow from the misuse of power. Whether it be by getting tail or money obtained through a well connected clique of families who feed off of each others access to a cult.


What does having your call and election made sure (which since it's secret is not an effective way to get gain and glory of the world) have to do with Church building contracts? I think you're rambling....
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Re: Historical Mormonism is a mystery cult?

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The Nehor wrote:
Mercury wrote:All mystery cults and secret organizations consist of interweaving narratives that are then flipped on their heads. The Hashashin are a good example.

I got to thinking about this while reading the 'Book of Mormon says no polyg' thread. It also says no secret combinations which as a definitionfit the profile fo the Calling and Election Made Sure process. One thing that I get is that the jole was on the common dupe.

Any long con works like this.

I say Historical Mormonism because the process changed over time and the motivations changed as well. Why does the LDS church use the same construction company to do most of the LDS corporations development work? Is there a bidding process? Who profits from this? If I am mistaken in this please specifically correct me.

What I am getting at here is the core nature within all secret organizations, a disdain for the rules and an insatiable urge to profit somehow from the misuse of power. Whether it be by getting tail or money obtained through a well connected clique of families who feed off of each others access to a cult.


What does having your call and election made sure (which since it's secret is not an effective way to get gain and glory of the world) have to do with Church building contracts? I think you're rambling....


It represents the "next level" of Mormonism, making past rules null and void and setting apart the individual as an elite, thus heightening the sense of entitlement. Read some Chomsky and repost in a month.
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Re: Historical Mormonism is a mystery cult?

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The Nehor wrote:
Mercury wrote:All mystery cults and secret organizations consist of interweaving narratives that are then flipped on their heads. The Hashashin are a good example.

I got to thinking about this while reading the 'Book of Mormon says no polyg' thread. It also says no secret combinations which as a definitionfit the profile fo the Calling and Election Made Sure process. One thing that I get is that the jole was on the common dupe.

Any long con works like this.

I say Historical Mormonism because the process changed over time and the motivations changed as well. Why does the LDS church use the same construction company to do most of the LDS corporations development work? Is there a bidding process? Who profits from this? If I am mistaken in this please specifically correct me.

What I am getting at here is the core nature within all secret organizations, a disdain for the rules and an insatiable urge to profit somehow from the misuse of power. Whether it be by getting tail or money obtained through a well connected clique of families who feed off of each others access to a cult.


What does having your call and election made sure (which since it's secret is not an effective way to get gain and glory of the world) have to do with Church building contracts? I think you're rambling....


I think what Mercury is getting at is the secret society of the Mormon elite, which includes the contractors. Hassan described it as the inner circle of the cult. In Mormonism, the inner circle are those who have their calling and election made sure and whose companies get the church contracts. The members outside this inner circle are the ones sitting in the pews "sustaining" the ones in the inner circle as their leaders, and sending their money to the inner circle elite. At least that's how I see it.
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Re: Historical Mormonism is a mystery cult?

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Mercury wrote:
The Nehor wrote:
Mercury wrote:All mystery cults and secret organizations consist of interweaving narratives that are then flipped on their heads. The Hashashin are a good example.

I got to thinking about this while reading the 'Book of Mormon says no polyg' thread. It also says no secret combinations which as a definitionfit the profile fo the Calling and Election Made Sure process. One thing that I get is that the jole was on the common dupe.

Any long con works like this.

I say Historical Mormonism because the process changed over time and the motivations changed as well. Why does the LDS church use the same construction company to do most of the LDS corporations development work? Is there a bidding process? Who profits from this? If I am mistaken in this please specifically correct me.

What I am getting at here is the core nature within all secret organizations, a disdain for the rules and an insatiable urge to profit somehow from the misuse of power. Whether it be by getting tail or money obtained through a well connected clique of families who feed off of each others access to a cult.


What does having your call and election made sure (which since it's secret is not an effective way to get gain and glory of the world) have to do with Church building contracts? I think you're rambling....


It represents the "next level" of Mormonism, making past rules null and void and setting apart the individual as an elite, thus heightening the sense of entitlement. Read some Chomsky and repost in a month.


But I am one of the 'Mormon elite'. You're wrong.
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Re: Historical Mormonism is a mystery cult?

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The Nehor wrote:
Mercury wrote:
The Nehor wrote:
Mercury wrote:All mystery cults and secret organizations consist of interweaving narratives that are then flipped on their heads. The Hashashin are a good example.

I got to thinking about this while reading the 'Book of Mormon says no polyg' thread. It also says no secret combinations which as a definitionfit the profile fo the Calling and Election Made Sure process. One thing that I get is that the jole was on the common dupe.

Any long con works like this.

I say Historical Mormonism because the process changed over time and the motivations changed as well. Why does the LDS church use the same construction company to do most of the LDS corporations development work? Is there a bidding process? Who profits from this? If I am mistaken in this please specifically correct me.

What I am getting at here is the core nature within all secret organizations, a disdain for the rules and an insatiable urge to profit somehow from the misuse of power. Whether it be by getting tail or money obtained through a well connected clique of families who feed off of each others access to a cult.


What does having your call and election made sure (which since it's secret is not an effective way to get gain and glory of the world) have to do with Church building contracts? I think you're rambling....


It represents the "next level" of Mormonism, making past rules null and void and setting apart the individual as an elite, thus heightening the sense of entitlement. Read some Chomsky and repost in a month.


But I am one of the 'Mormon elite'. You're wrong.


And I as well. Here we have two against one. Law of majority rule. Victory.
One moment in annihilation's waste,
one moment, of the well of life to taste-
The stars are setting and the caravan
starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste!

-Omar Khayaam

*Be on the lookout for the forthcoming album from Jiminy Finn and the Moneydiggers.*
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Re: Historical Mormonism is a mystery cult?

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The Nehor wrote:
Mercury wrote:
The Nehor wrote:
Mercury wrote:All mystery cults and secret organizations consist of interweaving narratives that are then flipped on their heads. The Hashashin are a good example.

I got to thinking about this while reading the 'Book of Mormon says no polyg' thread. It also says no secret combinations which as a definitionfit the profile fo the Calling and Election Made Sure process. One thing that I get is that the jole was on the common dupe.

Any long con works like this.

I say Historical Mormonism because the process changed over time and the motivations changed as well. Why does the LDS church use the same construction company to do most of the LDS corporations development work? Is there a bidding process? Who profits from this? If I am mistaken in this please specifically correct me.

What I am getting at here is the core nature within all secret organizations, a disdain for the rules and an insatiable urge to profit somehow from the misuse of power. Whether it be by getting tail or money obtained through a well connected clique of families who feed off of each others access to a cult.


What does having your call and election made sure (which since it's secret is not an effective way to get gain and glory of the world) have to do with Church building contracts? I think you're rambling....


It represents the "next level" of Mormonism, making past rules null and void and setting apart the individual as an elite, thus heightening the sense of entitlement. Read some Chomsky and repost in a month.


But I am one of the 'Mormon elite'. You're wrong.


How so? To be such a valuable asset and not share your experiences would be criminal.

Do tell us. I'll be holding my breath.
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