A gentile's impression of Mormonism....

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I think that is common among many people. Even the solid Catholics I know, and I know quite a number, don't feel they have the corner on truth.


Yes, I would venture to guess it is THE most common religious viewpoint. The idea that there IS "one true church" at all is pretty alien now-a-days.

THere is no question about this. Polygamy will always be tied to Mormonism. This is why the LDS Church is SOOOOOO anti polygamy. They are the most anti polygamy organization out there. But even so they leave it intact through their practice for sealings if a wife is deceased. And the Church leaves it in the canon. So perhaps this is deserved.


Not only is it left on the canon, but apologists engage in vociferous defense of it, so yes, I think it is deserved. But it's not what the church would like. I think the only way the church could open the door to, one day, given enough time (and I'm talking decades, not years), really distancing themselves from polygamy would be to renounce the practice in their own history. I don't think that will ever happen, so they will continue to be linked to polygamy.

I am sure she was just confused.


That's what I thought, but now Cakid says he heard this urban legend, as well. So perhaps it is not an uncommon confusion. The LDS church is fairly unique in this particular requirement.


I disagree. Actually I have been asking a lot of non LDS what their view of the Church is. Some of these persons are my business partners and I have asked them to be candid. In every case they have said that they LDS Church is good organization, does a lot of good, its members a great people, live their faith and make good neighbors and citizens. Two have told me they admire anyone that can be do devoted to a faith that requires so much dedication and had such high standards. One commented he could never do it-he is a liberal Catholic, the other said he could not and would not want to and he is a liberal in name and heritage Jewish person.

So you get mixed results. Some people love Chevy's and other think they suck. Advertising reaches some and not others.


Jason, just telling your friends or associates to be candid does not ensure that they will be. There were times when the topic of Mormonism came up with friends or associates in my past when I was an active LDS, and they were always very careful in their comments. Later, when I left the church, they became more open in their criticism of LDS.

Having said that, I do agree that results are mixed, and that people who live around Mormons often have positive views of them. Mormons (as long as you don't tread on their faith in some way, like be an exmormon) are nice, agreeable, responsible people in general.

But if you're living in an area where it's not uncommon to even HAVE LDS neighbors, you aren't really living in what I'm thinking of as the "mission field". I'm referring to areas that have so few LDS members that people can easily go their entire lives without ever getting to know a "real life" Mormon. These are people whose views of the church comes from social knowledge, for lack of a better term, about Mormonism. I think these are the people the PR is targeted at, because that social knowledge largely consists of, more or less, Mormons are odd and possible polygamists.
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Interesting OP! I had LDS coworkers for a number of years, going back to hmm...1976 or there abouts and forward in two states. I had many long conversations regarding Mormonism with one coworker in particular. When I moved to my current state, I had LDS friends, served LDS families professionally and also more informally in Girl Scouting. Prior to my actually investigating in earnest beginning (say 12 years ago) this is what I would have told you about LDS based on my lengthy conversations with the one coworker (who gave me my first Book of Mormon) and one friend in particular whom I grew to be very close to.


I think you knew a lot about Mormon culture, actually. But, again, like Jason, you seem to be living in an area where there are enough Mormons for it to not to be uncommon to have LDS coworkers, friends, etc. I'm talking about areas of the US or world where there are so few LDS that it is not uncommon to live one's entire life without ever meeting a "real life" Mormon. For example, if I were to take a survey of my coworkers over the years, I'm betting that the majority would state that *I* was the only "real life" Mormon or exmormon they'd ever met. When I served my mission in France, the vast majority of people acted like they'd never even heard of it. So there are many parts of the world where people's impression of what Mormonism is derives from what I'm calling (for lack of a better term) common social knowledge about it. I think that is the population being targeted by the LDS PR machine.
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beastie wrote:
Interesting OP! I had LDS coworkers for a number of years, going back to hmm...1976 or there abouts and forward in two states. I had many long conversations regarding Mormonism with one coworker in particular. When I moved to my current state, I had LDS friends, served LDS families professionally and also more informally in Girl Scouting. Prior to my actually investigating in earnest beginning (say 12 years ago) this is what I would have told you about LDS based on my lengthy conversations with the one coworker (who gave me my first Book of Mormon) and one friend in particular whom I grew to be very close to.


I think you knew a lot about Mormon culture, actually. But, again, like Jason, you seem to be living in an area where there are enough Mormons for it to not to be uncommon to have LDS coworkers, friends, etc. I'm talking about areas of the US or world where there are so few LDS that it is not uncommon to live one's entire life without ever meeting a "real life" Mormon. For example, if I were to take a survey of my coworkers over the years, I'm betting that the majority would state that *I* was the only "real life" Mormon or exmormon they'd ever met. When I served my mission in France, the vast majority of people acted like they'd never even heard of it. So there are many parts of the world where people's impression of what Mormonism is derives from what I'm calling (for lack of a better term) common social knowledge about it. I think that is the population being targeted by the LDS PR machine.


Oh. Okay. Before I left Jersey I'd never heard of Mormons.
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Re: A gentile's impression of Mormonism....

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beastie wrote: The Mormon church’s worst fear come true.

No matter how hard the church tries, polygamy is the first thing most people think of when they hear “Mormon”. I do not believe the LDS church will ever escape this.



15 Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us?
16 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?

(Old Testament | Isaiah 29:15 - 16)
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