harmony wrote: I think home teachers are very often more harmful than helpful, and I am forever grateful that mine haven't shown up in over a year.
Home Teachers are helpful to the degree that you welcome them. I am always glad to see mine and they are quite helpful in return. One changed the bulb on my porch last month, since I have a dislike for ladders.
harmony wrote: I think home teachers are very often more harmful than helpful, and I am forever grateful that mine haven't shown up in over a year.
Home Teachers are helpful to the degree that you welcome them. I am always glad to see mine and they are quite helpful in return. One changed the bulb on my porch last month, since I have a dislike for ladders.
When the home teachers are helpful and/or supportive, it works. When they aren't, it doesn't. Mine aren't. 'Nuff said.
Some Schmo wrote:Yes, the amount of heartache is huge, but it's still for the best.
This is where I disagree. It may not be best for a lot of people. It is not up to me to decide who it is best for.
Think of the amount of pain a drunk has to withstand on the road to recovery. Does that mean you shouldn't talk them out of drinking?
Not a very similar comparison.
Besides, Merc is being waaaaay more tolerant than I would be. Nobody is coming into my home and spouting off obvious rubbish to my family members. I don't let people pray in my house either. If they want to talk to themselves or the sky, they can do it outside. I have little patience for that crap. End of story.
I can agree with this.
If there's one thing I've learned from this board, it's that consensual sex with multiple partners is okay unless God commands it. - Abman
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Over the past two months the HT's and I have a deal. I appease my wifes desire to have a canned saccharine altruistic piece of trash known as a home teaching lesson into the home if I get to talk to them about my past history and how I came to a realization that the LDS church is flawed.
I'll bet you talk more about the Church now than you ever did prior to that. It's a start.....
Some Schmo wrote:Yes, the amount of heartache is huge, but it's still for the best.
This is where I disagree. It may not be best for a lot of people. It is not up to me to decide who it is best for.
Well, I believe the people who really aren't ready for it are inoculated against it anyway. You can't force the truth on anyone. Browsing these forums for a day can teach anyone that.
Scottie wrote:
Think of the amount of pain a drunk has to withstand on the road to recovery. Does that mean you shouldn't talk them out of drinking?
Not a very similar comparison.
You don't think? I've considered religion a potentially destructive addiction for years. I mean, just look at how long exmos will frequent boards like this in the process of getting over it. Religion, like alcohol, can be harmless in moderation, but too much is most definitely a bad thing. Most of the people I've observed (the real hard core religious types, anyway) are certainly using religion as a crutch and a distraction from the pain in their lives. Maybe a food addiction may have been a better example only because it can start out appearing more harmless, and you have to eat some, but an addiction is an addiction.
I see little difference between the two (except in the specific details). In many ways, religious addiction is far worse.
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
Over the past two months the HT's and I have a deal. I appease my wifes desire to have a canned saccharine altruistic piece of trash known as a home teaching lesson into the home if I get to talk to them about my past history and how I came to a realization that the LDS church is flawed.
I'll bet you talk more about the Church now than you ever did prior to that. It's a start.....
Very true. The difference between when I was attending and now is that consistently and predictably I am confident in my position instead of weaseling out of discussion through use of altruism and bad philosophy.
One day you too will be able to say the same but you have to give up the cult first.
And crawling on the planet's face Some insects called the human race Lost in time And lost in space...and meaning
Mercury wrote:Over the past two months the HT's and I have a deal. I appease my wifes desire to have a canned saccharine altruistic piece of trash known as a home teaching lesson into the home if I get to talk to them about my past history and how I came to a realization that the LDS church is flawed.
So they gave the canned answer to Life the universe and everything, closing with an amen and small talk. I corralled a kid and changed her diaper while the wife talked ith the assigned friends. Letting munchkin #1 loose to sit with us they launched into the typical "its time to go" Mormon schtick: Is there anthing we can do for you?
once again I said it was time for a different conversation and asked if they had any questions about what I shared last week, if they wanted citations for any of the historical consensus I had cited the month previous.
A moment passed and they announced they had to leave. They promptly left, citing other obligations not mentioned previously.
"Fair enough. I can understand you having to get home to your wife, White collar morgbot #1."
I invited him to lunch sometime this week and said goodbye. I was baking cupcakes when they came in so the whole thing was timed.
I'll bet the tape recorder had run out of tape. I hate it when that happens.
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
I'll bet you talk more about the Church now than you ever did prior to that. It's a start.....
Very true. The difference between when I was attending and now is that consistently and predictably I am confident in my position instead of weaseling out of discussion through use of altruism and bad philosophy.
One day you too will be able to say the same
Can't happen because I am confident in my position now.
I'll bet you talk more about the Church now than you ever did prior to that. It's a start.....
Very true. The difference between when I was attending and now is that consistently and predictably I am confident in my position instead of weaseling out of discussion through use of altruism and bad philosophy.
One day you too will be able to say the same
Can't happen because I am confident in my position now.
yah, that's what I said 3 years ago. Given the responses you have given here I disagree with your assumption that you have firmly proven your case. You still retreat to bad philosophy and altruism.
And crawling on the planet's face Some insects called the human race Lost in time And lost in space...and meaning