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Nightingale wrote:Statements from church members or the PAD do not constitute statements from The Church!


Unless it's BC's little editorial that is THE authoritative declaration on what is doctrine...then it is.
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It's amazing how quickly quotes from here find their way into DCP's quote box. Congrats guy and antishock.
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I'll keep trying.
One moment in annihilation's waste,
one moment, of the well of life to taste-
The stars are setting and the caravan
starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste!

-Omar Khayaam

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Bond...James Bond wrote:It's amazing how quickly quotes from here find their way into DCP's quote box. Congrats guy and antishock.


Well, one would think that if one were the Professor-of-Islamic-Studies-&-Arabic-in-the-Department-of-Asian-and-Near-Eastern-Languages-at-Brigham-Young-University *pant pant* one would produce, oh... I dunno... material within your field of expertise. So I looked up his profile at BYU, you know the one with the Red Necky picture, and lo and behold:

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1 Nephi 1–7
Comparing LDS Beliefs with First-Century Christianity
Evidences of the Book of Mormon
On Alma 7:10 and the Birthplace of Jesus Christ
Other Voices from the Dust
The Keystone of Our Religion

Journal of Book of Mormon Studies

"Secret Combinations" Revisited
Nephi and His Asherah

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Two Pahute Indian Legends: "Why the Grand Canyon Was Made" and "The Three Days of Darkness" (Volume 1 Issue 1)
A Modern Malleus maleficarum (Volume 3 Issue 1)
Afterword (Volume 11 Issue 2)
Authority in the Book of Mosiah (Volume 18 Issue 1)
Chattanooga Cheapshot, or The Gall of Bitterness (Volume 5 Issue 1)
Christ-Bearer (Volume 8 Issue 1)
Constancy amid Change (Volume 8 Issue 2)
David Whitmer Interviews: A Restoration Witness (Volume 5 Issue 1)
Decker's Complete Handbook on Mormonism (Volume 7 Issue 2)
Editor's Introduction (Volume 3 Issue 1)
Editor's Introduction (Volume 6 Issue 1)
Editor's Introduction: (Volume 16 Issue 2)
Editor's Introduction: "The Worst Herricy Man Can Preach" (Volume 12 Issue 1)
Editor's Introduction: "What Has Athens to Do with Jerusalem?": Apostasy and Restoration in the Big Picture (Volume 12 Issue 2)
Editor's Introduction: American Apocrypha? (Volume 13 Issue 1)
Editor's Introduction: By What Measure Shall We Mete? (Volume 2 Issue 1)
Editor's Introduction: Doubting the Doubters (Volume 8 Issue 2)
Editor's Introduction: Fictionary (Volume 10 Issue 2)
Editor's Introduction: Historical Concreteness, or Speculative Abstraction? (Volume 14 Issue 1)
Editor's Introduction: In the Land of the Lotus-Eaters (Volume 10 Issue 1)
Editor's Introduction: Of "Galileo Events," Hype, and Suppression: Or, Abusing Science and its History (Volume 15 Issue 2)
Editor's Introduction: Perceptions and Expectations (Volume 11 Issue 1)
Editor's Introduction: QnA (Volume 13 Issue 2)
Editor's Introduction: Questions to Legal Answers (Volume 4 Issue 1)
Editor's Introduction: Reflections on the Reactions to Rough Stone Rolling and Related Matters (Volume 19 Issue 1)
Editor's Introduction: The Review Crosses a Divide of Its Own (Volume 11 Issue 2)
Editor's Introduction: Through a Glass, Darkly (Volume 9 Issue 2)
Editor's Introduction: Traditions of the Fathers (Volume 9 Issue 1)
Editor's Introduction: Triptych (Inspired by Hieronymus Bosch) (Volume 8 Issue 1)
Editor's Introduction—Not So Easily Dismissed: Some Facts for Which Counterexplanations of the Book of Mormon Will Need to Account (Volume 17 Issue 2)
Editor's Introduction—The Witchcraft Paradigm: On Claims to (Volume 18 Issue 2)
Ein Heldenleben? On Thomas Stuart Ferguson as an Elias for Cultural Mormons (Volume 16 Issue 1)
Introduction (Volume 7 Issue 2)
Introduction (Volume 7 Issue 1)
Introduction (Volume 6 Issue 2)
Introduction (Volume 1 Issue 1)
Mormon in the Fiery Furnace Or, Loftes Tryk Goes to Cambridge (Volume 6 Issue 2)
Mormonism (Volume 8 Issue 1)
Mormonism as a Restoration (Volume 18 Issue 1)
Mormonism: The Prophet, the Book and the Cult. (Volume 2 Issue 1)
On the New World Archaeological Foundation (Volume 16 Issue 1)
Prolegomena to the DNA Articles (Volume 15 Issue 2)
Reflections on Secular Anti-Mormonism (Volume 17 Issue 2)
Skin Deep (Volume 9 Issue 2)
Stories from the Early Saints: Converted by the Book of Mormon (Volume 4 Issue 1)
Text and Context (Volume 6 Issue 1)
The Book of Mormon: First Nephi, The Doctrinal Foundation. (Volume 1 Issue 1)
The Evangelical Is Our Brother (Volume 11 Issue 2)
The Prophetic Book of Mormon (Volume 2 Issue 1)
What Certain Baptists Think They Know about the Restored Gospel (Volume 10 Issue 1)
Yet More Abuse of B. H. Roberts (Volume 9 Issue 1)

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A Pedra Fundamental De Nossa Religião
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L'autorité dans le livre de Mosiah
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Introduction
Is Mormonism Christian? An Investigation of Definitions, part 1
Is Mormonism Christian? An Investigation of Definitions, part 2
Is Mormonism Christian? An Investigation of Definitions, part 3
Is the Book of Mormon True?: Notes on the Debate
Mormonism as "Cult": The Limits of Lexical Polemics
Nephi and His Asherah: A Note on 1 Nephi 11:8–23
Not Joseph's, and Not Modern
Secret Combinations Revisited
The Throne Theophany/Prophetic Call of Muḥammad
Ye Are Gods: Psalm 82 and John 10 as Witnesses to the Divine Nature of Humankind

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I'm shocked. I'm utterly shocked I tells ya...
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UN ERUDITO EXAMINA LAS EVIDENCIAS PARA EL LIBRO DE MORMÓN (PET-T1)

I especially liked that one.
One moment in annihilation's waste,
one moment, of the well of life to taste-
The stars are setting and the caravan
starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste!

-Omar Khayaam

*Be on the lookout for the forthcoming album from Jiminy Finn and the Moneydiggers.*
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antishock8 wrote:Well, one would think that if one were the Professor-of-Islamic-Studies-&-Arabic-in-the-Department-of-Asian-and-Near-Eastern-Languages-at-Brigham-Young-University *pant pant* one would produce, oh... I dunno... material within your field of expertise. So I looked up his profile at BYU, you know the one with the Red Necky picture, and lo and behold:

Transcripts and Featured Publications


Uh, he did actually recently publish a book about Mohammed. And, he does have more than one other publication in his field. But, as guy sajer will probably point out, none of them are in peer-reviewed journals (that we know of).
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Trevor wrote:
antishock8 wrote:Well, one would think that if one were the Professor-of-Islamic-Studies-&-Arabic-in-the-Department-of-Asian-and-Near-Eastern-Languages-at-Brigham-Young-University *pant pant* one would produce, oh... I dunno... material within your field of expertise. So I looked up his profile at BYU, you know the one with the Red Necky picture, and lo and behold:

Transcripts and Featured Publications


Uh, he did actually recently publish a book about Mohammed. And, he does have more than one other publication in his field. But, as guy sajer will probably point out, none of them are in peer-reviewed journals (that we know of).


Yes, I noticed that. A stunning 170-something page revelation-of-a-book that ignores Islam's realities and paints the child molesting, polygamous prophet (sound familiar?) as a gentle visionary. I'm sure CAIR left $50 on the nightstand for the thouroughly childish account.

That being... Writing a crappy book does not a Professor make. Being a Professor and producing academic research and relevant articles in your field of study does a Professor make. Being paid as an apologist for a church is not what a Professor normally does. When you contrast his lengthy title with the works being produced by Mr. Peterson, on BYU's website no less, the buzzing in your ears is your brain's way of letting you know that what you're seeing doesn't add up, and it doesn't make sense.

Color me shocked. Absolutely shocked by this aberrant and bizarre academic arrangement.
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antishock8 wrote:
Trevor wrote:
antishock8 wrote:Well, one would think that if one were the Professor-of-Islamic-Studies-&-Arabic-in-the-Department-of-Asian-and-Near-Eastern-Languages-at-Brigham-Young-University *pant pant* one would produce, oh... I dunno... material within your field of expertise. So I looked up his profile at BYU, you know the one with the Red Necky picture, and lo and behold:

Transcripts and Featured Publications


Uh, he did actually recently publish a book about Mohammed. And, he does have more than one other publication in his field. But, as guy sajer will probably point out, none of them are in peer-reviewed journals (that we know of).


Yes, I noticed that. A stunning 170-something page revelation-of-a-book that ignores Islam's realities and paints the child molesting, polygamous prophet (sound familiar?) as a gentle visionary. I'm sure CAIR left $50 on the nightstand for the thouroughly childish account.

That being... Writing a s****y book does not a Professor make. Being a Professor and producing academic research and relevant articles in your field of study does a Professor make. Being paid as an apologist for a church is not what a Professor normally does. When you contrast his lengthy title with the works being produced by Mr. Peterson, on BYU's website no less, the buzzing in your ears is your brain's way of letting you know that what you're seeing doesn't add up, and it doesn't make sense.

Color me shocked. Absolutely shocked by this aberrant and bizarre academic arrangement.


This is your review of Muhammad? Good grief.
One moment in annihilation's waste,
one moment, of the well of life to taste-
The stars are setting and the caravan
starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste!

-Omar Khayaam

*Be on the lookout for the forthcoming album from Jiminy Finn and the Moneydiggers.*
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LifeOnaPlate wrote:
This is your review of Muhammad? Good grief.


What? I'm not awed by Mr. Peterson and his lack of narrative, perspective, accuracy, and/or credibility reference Islam, its history, and its relevancy to today's world? I'm not? Scandalous. His apologetic stance toward Aisha's husband and the religous-political world's nightmare known as Islam can clearly be linked to his own Mormon apologia. He would make a wonderful Dhimmi.
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antishock8 wrote:
LifeOnaPlate wrote:
This is your review of Muhammad? Good grief.


What? I'm not awed by Mr. Peterson and his lack of narrative, perspective, accuracy, and/or credibility reference Islam, its history, and its relevancy to today's world? I'm not? Scandalous. His apologetic stance toward Aisha's husband and the religous-political world's nightmare known as Islam can clearly be linked to his own Mormon apologia. He would make a wonderful Dhimmi.


Let's hear the honest-to-whatever-you-believe-in-truth. Have you actually read the whole book? A few chapters? One chapter?
One moment in annihilation's waste,
one moment, of the well of life to taste-
The stars are setting and the caravan
starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste!

-Omar Khayaam

*Be on the lookout for the forthcoming album from Jiminy Finn and the Moneydiggers.*
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