What Precisely Is A Jesus Freak?

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I actually saw a post by someone on another board saying that the only people having super large famlies were orthodox jews, muslims and Jesus freaks. I think he was saying they were Mormons - maybe it's a new term.
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I think is was some Biblical experiment gone horribly wrong. Could have had something to do with ghost insemination.
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moksha wrote:I think is was some Biblical experiment gone horribly wrong. Could have had something to do with ghost insemination.


I thought it was god that inseminated Mary, not the holy ghost. Now you're telling me that god used a surrogate to have his son, even though all three of them are the same?

This trinity thing is soooo confusing.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Moksha wrote:I think is was some Biblical experiment gone horribly wrong. Could have had something to do with ghost insemination.


I thought it was god that inseminated Mary, not the holy ghost. Now you're telling me that god used a surrogate to have his son, even though all three of them are the same?

This trinity thing is soooo confusing.


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Maybe someone could help me out here. Where is the part in the New Testament where the woman is sent away who was loudly following the Apostles and they had to tell her to go away?
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Re: What Precisely Is A Jesus Freak?

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Moniker wrote:I looked and apparently those in the 60's that were into pacifism considered themselves Jesus Freaks. Yet, I think the term has changed somewhat in the last 40 years -- I usually consider that term a slur or referring to those that twist themselves in contortions while speaking in tongues. The other evening someone told me that a lot of the posters on this board are still a bunch of Jesus Freaks whether they know it or not -- that what is indoctrinated is slow to go and besides their best efforts it sticks with them. That this is where my culture shock comes into play. :)

I didn't quite know what this person meant -- so I'm tossing it out to the denizens of the board. What is a Jesus Freak? Were you one? Are you one still? Would you like to NOT be one? Are you proud to be one?


Oh good grief. Would you like to hear from someone who actually lived (and survived) the sixties because the people who have replied on this thread don't understand the culture of the sixties much less the application of the slang term "freak".

Okay, not that I would know from experience ;-) (that was a lie). In the 60's hippies referred to themselves (ourselves, not that I would know from experience ;-) (another lie) as "freaks" as in Hippie Freaks or simply Freaks. Hippies did not typically refer to themselves as Hippies but rather simply "freaks". As in Long Haired Hippie Freak. You had to be there, I suppose. The phrase "Jesus Freak" was simply a specialization of the term Hippie Freak. In other words, Hippies and/or Freaks who either believed in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and/or suscribed to the philosophies that he espoused.

Further (not that I would know from experience ;-) (another lie), a Jesus Freak did not necessarily abstain from the use of various uh, substances such as marijuana, hashish, (watch this)...that is to say grass, hash, acid, red rockets, yellow jackets and other pharmaceutically related substances.

Get it?

Not that I would know from experience, mind you.

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Jersey Girl wrote:Oh good grief. Would you like to hear from someone who actually lived (and survived) the sixties because the people who have replied on this thread don't understand the culture of the sixties much less the application of the slang term "freak".

Okay, not that I would know from experience ;-) (that was a lie). In the 60's hippies referred to themselves (ourselves, not that I would know from experience ;-) (another lie) as "freaks" as in Hippie Freaks or simply Freaks. Hippies did not typically refer to themselves as Hippies but rather simply "freaks". As in Long Haired Hippie Freak. You had to be there, I suppose. The phrase "Jesus Freak" was simply a specialization of the term Hippie Freak. In other words, Hippies and/or Freaks who either believed in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and/or suscribed to the philosophies that he espoused.

Further (not that I would know from experience ;-) (another lie), a Jesus Freak did not necessarily abstain from the use of various uh, substances such as marijuana, hashish, (watch this)...that is to say grass, hash, acid, red rockets, yellow jackets and other pharmaceutically related substances.

Get it?

Not that I would know from experience, mind you.


That's pretty interesting. You're correct; I did not know that.

I don't doubt what you're saying here at all (I was born in the late sixties, so I don't have direct experience), but you've got to acknowledge that the use of the term "freaks" and more specifically "Jesus Freaks" has morphed quite a bit since then, no? If people used it to describe themselves back then, then it has to have changed over time because it sure feels like a pejorative to me in this day and age, and it's hard to imagine people using it to describe themselves.
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Re: What Precisely Is A Jesus Freak?

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Some Schmo wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:Oh good grief. Would you like to hear from someone who actually lived (and survived) the sixties because the people who have replied on this thread don't understand the culture of the sixties much less the application of the slang term "freak".

Okay, not that I would know from experience ;-) (that was a lie). In the 60's hippies referred to themselves (ourselves, not that I would know from experience ;-) (another lie) as "freaks" as in Hippie Freaks or simply Freaks. Hippies did not typically refer to themselves as Hippies but rather simply "freaks". As in Long Haired Hippie Freak. You had to be there, I suppose. The phrase "Jesus Freak" was simply a specialization of the term Hippie Freak. In other words, Hippies and/or Freaks who either believed in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and/or suscribed to the philosophies that he espoused.

Further (not that I would know from experience ;-) (another lie), a Jesus Freak did not necessarily abstain from the use of various uh, substances such as marijuana, hashish, (watch this)...that is to say grass, hash, acid, red rockets, yellow jackets and other pharmaceutically related substances.

Get it?

Not that I would know from experience, mind you.


That's pretty interesting. You're correct; I did not know that.

I don't doubt what you're saying here at all (I was born in the late sixties, so I don't have direct experience), but you've got to acknowledge that the use of the term "freaks" and more specifically "Jesus Freaks" has morphed quite a bit since then, no? If people used it to describe themselves back then, then it has to have changed over time because it sure feels like a pejorative to me in this day and age, and it's hard to imagine people using it to describe themselves.


The term "freak" was used in the perjorative to begin with, Schmo, as the counterculture of the 60's began to emerge. Eventually, "hippies" began to refer to themselves (ourselves, not that I would know) (I lie) as "freaks", In other words outcasts of the society they rejected.
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Jersey Girl wrote: The term "freak" was used in the perjorative to begin with, Schmo, as the counterculture of the 60's began to emerge. Eventually, "hippies" began to refer to themselves (ourselves, not that I would know) (I lie) as "freaks", In other words outcasts of the society they rejected.


Ahhh... makes total sense, considering what I understand about hippies.

If I understand you correctly, it kind of reminds me of the words "gay" and even "atheist." Many outsiders use it as a pejorative, but those who self identify wear the decriptor as a sort of badge of honor.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote: The term "freak" was used in the perjorative to begin with, Schmo, as the counterculture of the 60's began to emerge. Eventually, "hippies" began to refer to themselves (ourselves, not that I would know) (I lie) as "freaks", In other words outcasts of the society they rejected.


Ahhh... makes total sense, considering what I understand about hippies.

If I understand you correctly, it kind of reminds me of the words "gay" and even "atheist." Many outsiders use it as a pejorative, but those who self identify wear the decriptor as a sort of badge of honor.


This will be my last post for a bit. It's my busiest time at work and I really need not to get caught up in the board discussions. The term "freak" was first used as an insult to those who chose the lifestyle and/or political philosophies of the "hippie movement". I know of not one freak who referred to it as the "hippie movement" but rather the peace movement. Some freaks used the term as a form of self degredation and also as the "badge of honor" as you say.

You have to understand that the peace movement was a direct response to the war in Vietnam. We lived on a steady diet of images of body bags and "body counts" on the nightly news. You live in a different world, you see. Back then, as young people came of age and turned 18 they lived in virtual fear of the draft lottery and waiting for their "number" to come up. The number assignments based on their date of birth. The peace movement was a fear response. Kids just graduating highschool being confronted (if they weren't college students or physically/mentally impaired in some way) with the real possibility of being sent involuntarily to war. They were scared to death, Schmo. You live in a world of an all volunteer military force. Such was not the case back then.

There were no "cookie cutter" freaks. Some came from affluent homes, some poor. Some rejected by their families and literally living in vans with eachother. The one thing they all had in common was fear.

There was nothing wrong with being a Jesus Freak back then. It was simply another form of self description.

So far as the use of the term now. I would equate it (though again, generalizations can't be applied across the board) with saying something such as "I'm a sports freak". Meaning a devotee of atheletics. Jesus Freak = devotee of Jesus. About the same as in the sixties.

And thus concludes our history lesson regarding the sixties.

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