Because my head shaking has been brought forward in service of the position that evolutionists are all confused
Trevor, I never said all evolutionists are confused, did I?
Kevin has been asked whether he has read anything about evolution. He answers "I have heard assumptions...."
No, that is a misrepresentation of what has transpired here, and flat out dishonest and an insult to those who actually comprehend what has taken place. I said I had heard "assertions" and by that I meant assertions related to the question I asked, meaning of course, that I read them, not that I literally heard someone yell them through the hallways. The assertions were similar to the ones offered by TD, so I wasn't surprised to see her list, as it was familiar.
Which leads me to pose the question once again: have you read anything about evolution?
Yes I have. And again, I would note that this is essentially what I predicted would happen. I ask a simple question and the evolution fanatics get defensive by attacking me for "ignorance." None of the novice evolution proponents have even tried to answer the question. I knew precisely what I was getting into here. I knew I would have to wait until either Tarski or EA took time out to explain things. The rest of you are left barking insults, similar to the cartoon illustrated on this thread.
Why the head shaking?
Because you like to pretend you're looking down your nose at others.
Because I see Kevin, once again, launching into a heated discussion on a topic he knows precious little about, displaying no small amount of ignorance on the subject, and then glorying in what he takes to be the ignorance and incoherence of others.
Example? The fact that none of the novice proponents have been able to offer an answer is proof of what I say. You want to attribute something t me I have never said or argued: that all evolutionists are idiots who only pretend to know what they're talking about.
The funniest thing about this whole scenario is that nowhere have I once rejected evolution as false.
I shake my head, because I am not an expert in the biological sciences, yet I have read what the experts have to say, and they sound a lot more convincing to me than Kevin's stunned bemusement.
"Stunned"? You're getting desperate now aren't you Trev?
So you've read you say, but you do not produce an answer just the same as the rest of amateurs here? Hell, even EA hasn't provided an answer, but he does so because he dismisses the question because he thinks the evidence is so overwhelming that the question is pointless. Nobody else here seemed to see that as a reasonable response. Why? Because they are ignorant of the details that make evolution theory compelling.
There is a news flash I will share with all of you. The Renaissance Man is extinct. There is no point in any of us pretending to be that person. There is too much knowledge, too many fields of endeavor, too little individual brain capacity, and too limited a human lifespan to expect to be able to hold forth on every topic and make a meaningful contribution.
Again you misunderstand my purposes here, which is something you're used to doing, unfortunately. Again, I knew exactly what I was getting into here. I knew I'd be tarred and feathered and then dragged under the bus. People like to do this because they think it makes them look smarter. But I'm no fool, and I know most of you who accept evolution theory do so blindly. The simple fact that it destroys the Garden of Eden story is enough to attract fans. They don't need to understand it all. They just need to know its usefulness on forums where religion is a common target.
I have not made any argument against evolution whatsoever. I have merely asked basic questions that don't find easy answers. These are questions others would ask if they were not too worried about being gang banged by the mocking hens who think they are somehow intelligent just because they sing the song of scientific consensus. I have thicker skin than most, and frankly do not give a rats ass what you think of my knowledge level.
Having said that, I would bet that my effort on this thread will produce the single most important thread on evolution this forum has ever seen. Why? Because I have gotten EA and Tarski to take time out and explain the science of it all. So whenever you have time to get over yourself, maybe you should thank me. They should dissect their responses to me and make it a sticky in celestial.
Unless one of you is an actual expert in the biological sciences, I doubt you know enough to prove or disprove the theory of evolution
I agree completely. And I would also say that unless you are an actual expert in biological sciences, you are not in any position to really know whether what the scholarly consensus says is true or not. You do not have the tools to make that kind of informed analysis. It is something that is simply accepted by those who are not willing to do the legwork to understand. This includes you and I both.
I am not surprised by Kevin's shock that anyone can believe a single branch in the evolutionary tree became homo sapiens, while other "apes" did not
Oh so now I'm "shocked"? More hyperbole to bolster your already exagerrated straw man? Again I understand teh branch analogy. What I am not getting is specific details about how humans became human whereas the "common ancestor" remained the same or became something else.
All this shows is that he is ignorant on the topic
Ah, the true agenda rears its ugly head. It makes things so much easier when you're calling people who present questions, "ignorant." I mean that's sure to make you look smarter and foster education isn't it?
As for what the hand of God has to do with any of it.
Multiple straw men I see. Where did I ever mention the hand of God?
Inserting the hand of God does not help us understand anything about the development of life.
Which is why Christians don't necessarily see evolution as a nemesis to Christian theology. In my view, the hand of God comes in handy when evolution hits its dead end and the question becomes, "How did life go live?" I have mentioned this several times in this thread, and I know it is a subject seperate from evolution, but it is one that has no answer from scientists.
Better to spend our time figuring out what we can than to sit back and say, "oh, God did that."
No wonder you write articles for Price. Everything has to be about bashing religion, even when nobody has said anything about it.