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_Jason Bourne
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THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT. KA has explicitly stated that she deleted all the commentary. IN OTHER WORDS, she eliminated any and all "spin." ONLY THE FACTS REMAIN, not the spin.

Are we finally on the same page?


Can facts be presented in a Vacuum?
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Jason Bourne wrote:Can facts be presented in a Vacuum?


Yes, they can be.
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Jason Bourne wrote:The fact that the Church does not disclose stuff does not make is ok for the other side to be as unbalanced.


So what is she supposed to reveal, the very same things the LDS Church does? Just what is your definition of balanced, anyway?
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Trevor wrote:
Jason Bourne wrote:The fact that the Church does not disclose stuff does not make is ok for the other side to be as unbalanced.


So what is she supposed to reveal, the very same things the LDS Church does? Just what is your definition of balanced, anyway?


Read my comments on the thread. I think I have been fairly clear.

No Dr Shades, most facts cannot be presented in a vacuum especially ones that can be contraversial.
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Jason Bourne wrote:Read my comments on the thread. I think I have been fairly clear.

No Dr Shades, most facts cannot be presented in a vacuum especially ones that can be contraversial.


So you have. I simply do not agree with you. Rough Stone Rolling is not fair and balanced either. As much as I like the author, the book is on some level fundamentally apologetic in nature. Fair and balanced might be giving the person both Brodie and Bushman, but imagining that Bushman alone is a fair and balanced approach is just not fair or balanced.
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Trevor wrote:
Jason Bourne wrote:Read my comments on the thread. I think I have been fairly clear.

No Dr Shades, most facts cannot be presented in a vacuum especially ones that can be contraversial.


So you have. I simply do not agree with you. Rough Stone Rolling is not fair and balanced either. As much as I like the author, the book is on some level fundamentally apologetic in nature. Fair and balanced might be giving the person both Brodie and Bushman, but imagining that Bushman alone is a fair and balanced approach is just not fair or balanced.


Well there you have it. I would be happy to give them both books. Let them Read Bushman, Brodie, faith promoting and faith demeaning.
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Jason Bourne wrote:Well there you have it. I would be happy to give them both books. Let them Read Bushman, Brodie, faith promoting and faith demeaning.


Square deal, Jason. You're a real Mensch. And, I am taking a break from being a juvenile jackass tonight in order to say this.
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Trevor wrote:
Jason Bourne wrote:Well there you have it. I would be happy to give them both books. Let them Read Bushman, Brodie, faith promoting and faith demeaning.


Square deal, Jason. You're a real Mensch. And, I am taking a break from being a juvenile jackass tonight in order to say this.



Thanks Trevor. You are a pretty decent fellow as well!
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Well I have waited until this thread seemed to wane before interjecting.

How would it be to combine the concepts of this thread with the "Stop Harvesting Those Records" thread?

Some Exmo's believe just as strongly as the Mo's that proper and informed baptism is important to salvation. This is a checkmate. So, how would a compromise sound? The Mo's get the names of the dead and we get the names of the living. The church missions open their books and give us all the names of their contacts. They can baptize the dead and we will give an informed and truthful presentation on the "Plan of Salvation" to the living?
I think it would be morally right to lie about your religion to edit the article favorably.
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