Serious question: How to prevent temple ordinances on dead?

[_Jersey Girl]

What if FLDS were vicariously baptizing LDS into their church? Would any of you find that offensive?

[_Yong Xi]

Let's be honest. Endowments and baptisms for the dead are at the core of the LDS business model.

Social Status/Guilt Relief = Temple Worthy = Tithing

[Guest]

Clearly not every one that gets a calling in the LDS Church is going to get it based on revelation or inspiration.

Clearly. And perhaps there could be times some others do.

But the church has a hierarchy of checks and balances:

If the elders quorem presidency didn't catch it, why didn't the 3 in the bishopric? If they were not inspired, why not the stake presidency, regional rep, quorem of the twelve or the president that is said to be a real live prophet?

If no one caught it until after "those that are not entitled to constant companionship with the Holy Ghost" put bounderies to it, where is the weak link??


Edited to correct: The church has a hierarchy of CHECKs (from the top down). No balances.

[_asbestosman]

This is a false dilemma. It's just offensive and disrespectful behavior.

No doubt it is offensive, but . . .

It means you don't respect their religion because they can see that in your mind their religion is insufficient and you're correcting something erroneous. That's offensive and disrespectful. They're not extremists for feeling that way.

I'll remember to be offended by Catholics who believe that my non-Christian native-American ancestors have gone to hell because they were never baptized. Oh, and let's throw in the children who died before being baptized by a Catholic priest (although I believe they have softened their stance in recent years).

I grant that Catholics have every right to be offended by my beliefs. I just find it odd that I don't take offense at their beliefs.

You can't live life without offending anyone. Many are quite offended at Catholic beliefs concerning abortion, stem-cell research, and birth-control. We can take offense to anything we want. All you can do is look at alternatives. I personally don't understand what the rush on temple work is either since I figure the millenium will easily take care of it, but then I'm not the head of the church.

[_asbestosman]

What if FLDS were vicariously baptizing LDS into their church? Would any of you find that offensive?

No.

The disconnect between LDS and non-LDS should be obvious. We already do something like that so we've thought about it and it seems normal to us. It is not normal to anyone else.

[_Gazelam]

Harmony,

Now that is a very interesting perspective, Road. And I think you're right. No way would the church allow any other church access to our records for any purpose whatsoever. No way.

All of this is available online.

[_harmony]

Harmony,

Now that is a very interesting perspective, Road. And I think you're right. No way would the church allow any other church access to our records for any purpose whatsoever. No way.

All of this is available online.

All of our records are available online? Where?

[_Gazelam]

Harmony,

All of our records are available online? Where?

All the Geneology stuff is here: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp

To get the temple work records you have to enter your membership number. Ill try to get the link.

[_Jersey Girl]

Harmony,

All of our records are available online? Where?

All the Geneology stuff is here: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp

To get the temple work records you have to enter your membership number. Ill try to get the link.

That was her point, Gaz! The church isn't giving access to other churches.

[_Gazelam]

Its safe to assume that if we have the information the work is done or soon will be.