LifeOnaPlate wrote:Your comments strike me as feminine, that's pretty much it. Again, feel free to clarify.
Your comments strike me as vapid, ignorant, and bigoted. Prove me wrong.
Impossible! I'm often referred to as both vapid, ignorant, and bigoted.
Just as long as no one calls you a woman... that is the ultimate insult!
It is very peculiar when people automatically assume that believing an anonymous poster on the internet is a woman is insulting. I agree.
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
Mister Scratch wrote:Fair enough, Moksha, but as you yourself have observed, it has always been *I* who has made gestures towards reconciliation. DCP has staunchly refused to do anything in that regard.
Reconciliation does not mean one party must confess to every slanderous theory the other party has about you. At least not in most dictionaries. Would you in return volunteer to apologize for all the innuendos, suppositions, and guesses aimed at DCP's character?
You clearly don't know that you're talking about, Nehor. It seems you are confusing the contents of this thread with all the many interactions DCP and I have had.
If DCP offered reconciliation if you would just admit that you're a slanderer would you consider that a gesture towards reconciliation?
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
Jersey Girl wrote:For those of you who don't know what it looks like to an outsider. When posters on boards speak of "outing" others, it just screams "cult".
I'm so not kidding.
Well there is no policy for outing anyone in the LDS Church that I am aware of and I have never heard it promoted. Oh sure there are some odd ducks like Will what is his name that threaten and bluster. But nobody ever talks about outing anyone.
Let's not forget that it is Church policy to "out" sinners and doubters who are employed by or attend BYU. The outing occurs when a student or employee confesses some misdeed to the Bishop, who then, as a matter of policy, shares information of the misdeed (if not the always the specific details) to BYU, so that it in turn might take disciplinary action.
Let us also not forget how "courts of love," in effect, out sinners in a very public way and allow information about members' personal lives into the public domain.
The callous disregard Mormon Inc. has for privacy is deplorable.
God . . . "who mouths morals to other people and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, . . . and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites this poor, abused slave to worship him ..."
Jersey Girl wrote:For those of you who don't know what it looks like to an outsider. When posters on boards speak of "outing" others, it just screams "cult".
I'm so not kidding.
Well there is no policy for outing anyone in the LDS Church that I am aware of and I have never heard it promoted. Oh sure there are some odd ducks like Will what is his name that threaten and bluster. But nobody ever talks about outing anyone.
Let's not forget that it is Church policy to "out" sinners and doubters who are employed by or attend BYU. The outing occurs when a student or employee confesses some misdeed to the Bishop, who then, as a matter of policy, shares information of the misdeed (if not the always the specific details) to BYU, so that it in turn might take disciplinary action.
Let us also not forget how "courts of love," in effect, out sinners in a very public way and allow information about members' personal lives into the public domain.
The callous disregard Mormon Inc. has for privacy is deplorable.
Wait a minute. A confession to a bishop is confidential. It sounds like at BYU, confessions to ward bishops are a pipeline to an Honor Code violation hearing.
Jersey Girl wrote:For those of you who don't know what it looks like to an outsider. When posters on boards speak of "outing" others, it just screams "cult".
I'm so not kidding.
Well there is no policy for outing anyone in the LDS Church that I am aware of and I have never heard it promoted. Oh sure there are some odd ducks like Will what is his name that threaten and bluster. But nobody ever talks about outing anyone.
Let's not forget that it is Church policy to "out" sinners and doubters who are employed by or attend BYU. The outing occurs when a student or employee confesses some misdeed to the Bishop, who then, as a matter of policy, shares information of the misdeed (if not the always the specific details) to BYU, so that it in turn might take disciplinary action.
Let us also not forget how "courts of love," in effect, out sinners in a very public way and allow information about members' personal lives into the public domain.
The callous disregard Mormon Inc. has for privacy is deplorable.
Yes, that is part of the agreement you make when you work at or attend BYU. If you dislike the policy, DON'T GO THERE!!!!
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
Wait a minute. A confession to a bishop is confidential. It sounds like at BYU, confessions to ward bishops are a pipeline to an Honor Code violation hearing.
Good grief, could we get any more draconian?
If a Mormon Bishop has a Church employee as a member of their ward the HR Dept sends out a letter to the Bishop each year asking the bishop to sing off that the member is Temple worthy. If the Bishop sings off that they are not temple worthy then the employee will be met with by their superior to discuss the lack of temple worthiness and the bishop will be asked to work with the member/employee in getting them worthy. If the member does not fix the problem they could lost their job.
Jersey Girl wrote:For those of you who don't know what it looks like to an outsider. When posters on boards speak of "outing" others, it just screams "cult".
I'm so not kidding.
Well there is no policy for outing anyone in the LDS Church that I am aware of and I have never heard it promoted. Oh sure there are some odd ducks like Will what is his name that threaten and bluster. But nobody ever talks about outing anyone.
Let's not forget that it is Church policy to "out" sinners and doubters who are employed by or attend BYU. The outing occurs when a student or employee confesses some misdeed to the Bishop, who then, as a matter of policy, shares information of the misdeed (if not the always the specific details) to BYU, so that it in turn might take disciplinary action.
Let us also not forget how "courts of love," in effect, out sinners in a very public way and allow information about members' personal lives into the public domain.
The callous disregard Mormon Inc. has for privacy is deplorable.
Yes, that is part of the agreement you make when you work at or attend BYU. If you dislike the policy, DON'T GO THERE!!!!
This is such simplistic thinking. Where is it written that if one associates with a group or organization that he/she has to agree with EVERY thing that group or organization says or does or with all its policies? Authoritarians just love people who think as simplistically as you do.
The policy of violating the confidentiality of the confessional at BYU and Mormon Inc. is deplorable. I thought so as an active member and BYU faculty, and I think so now as a non-believer and former BYU faculty.
God . . . "who mouths morals to other people and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, . . . and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites this poor, abused slave to worship him ..."
The Nehor wrote:Yes, that is part of the agreement you make when you work at or attend BYU. If you dislike the policy, DON'T GO THERE!!!!
How many times have I heard this LAME argument? Nehor, I personally know two professors at BYU who no longer believe in Mormonism. They came to this realization while working there, while abiding by the "honor code", while renewing their temple recommends. They are in a tough situation. They can't just "[not] go there". Your simplistic answer is laughable.