Dr. Shades wrote:Didn't he also drive around the parking lot during the candlelight vigil for Lynne Kanavel Whitesides, screaming obscenities at the assemble-ees?
I don't know, but being familiar with Lou's bulldog mentality I wouldn't be at all surprised.
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
So then, would it be acceptable if Louis Midgely did not publish the private emails and instead just posted in various message boards his personal recollections of what Tal Bacham "said" in those emails?
That's what Tal Bachman did--and you didn't have a problem with that. Bachman never provided the Stake Pres. actual words--good think he didn't tape record the conversation, 'cause if he did, he couldn't make it available publicly without your condemnation, now could he? Instead, Bachman just told everyone what he thinks he heard the Pres. say--so from your line of reasoning, if Louis Midgely wants to avoid crossing a line of what is acceptable, he should just TELL us what Bachman said, but he should not back his claims up with any actual proof.
To read James's side of the events in question, see Nastigrams R Us.
He makes the funnily unfunny observation that when one emails a single BYU professor-apologist, one is effectively emailing all of them. James's emails were immediately forwarded to several other BYU staffers, who didn't find it at all odd to respond via email to an email that was not sent to them personally.
Chris
My goodness - the malice and nastiness that drips off the apologists in their emails is simply amazing. It is interesting to see that Prof. Peterson is as haughty and snide in those private emails as he is online. I had thought it possible that his online persona was a put-on, but perhaps not. And Midgley is unbelievable.
I may be going to hell in a bucket, babe / But at least I'm enjoying the ride.
-Grateful Dead (lyrics by John Perry Barlow)
My spidey sense tingles, detecting a spidey double standard.
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
LifeOnaPlate wrote:My spidey sense tingles, detecting a spidey double standard.
You're spidey sense is right. Those FARMSistas sure do operate with a double standard. Thanks for pointing that out.
God . . . "who mouths morals to other people and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, . . . and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites this poor, abused slave to worship him ..."
LifeOnaPlate wrote:My spidey sense tingles, detecting a spidey double standard.
You're spidey sense is right. Those FARMSistas sure do operate with a double standard. Thanks for pointing that out.
As though they were the only ones to which my spidey sense was directed. Oh, you!
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
LifeOnaPlate wrote:My spidey sense tingles, detecting a spidey double standard.
You're spidey sense is right. Those FARMSistas sure do operate with a double standard. Thanks for pointing that out.
As though they were the only ones to which my spidey sense was directed. Oh, you!
Oh, your spidey senses were pointing toward you, then?
God . . . "who mouths morals to other people and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, . . . and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites this poor, abused slave to worship him ..."
LifeOnaPlate wrote:My spidey sense tingles, detecting a spidey double standard.
You're spidey sense is right. Those FARMSistas sure do operate with a double standard. Thanks for pointing that out.
As though they were the only ones to which my spidey sense was directed. Oh, you!
Oh, your spidey senses were pointing toward you, then?
Only sometimes.
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
Alter Idem wrote:That's what Tal Bachman did--and you didn't have a problem with that. Bachman never provided the Stake Pres. actual words--good think he didn't tape record the conversation, 'cause if he did, he couldn't make it available publicly without your condemnation, now could he? Instead, Bachman just told everyone what he thinks he heard the Pres. say--so from your line of reasoning, if Louis Midgely wants to avoid crossing a line of what is acceptable, he should just TELL us what Bachman said, but he should not back his claims up with any actual proof.
Actually, several of us did object to Tal's use of Keyes's name. It is just funny, or rather sad, that Midgley thinks that somehow two wrongs make a right.
“I was hooked from the start,” Snoop Dogg said. “We talked about the purpose of life, played Mousetrap, and ate brownies. The kids thought it was off the hook, for real.”
guy sajer wrote:"I am confident that Randy Keyes tried to convince Talmage that his membership in the Church had hopefully made him a better husband than he otherwise might have been trying to make a living in disgusting pop music world."
Oh yes, every single pop star is a disgusting moral degenerate.
I wonder if Gladys Knight escaped being a degenerate since she's an R&B/soul singer.
I wonder how God feels about the Osmonds (it was before my generation so I don't keep up). As a side note, I heard that some LDS members used the popularity of the Osmonds to talk about the church with others and even get converts.
Yep, God hates pop music and if I were an LDS leader God would hate country music too.
That's General Leo. He could be my friend if he weren't my enemy. eritis sicut dii I support NCMO
