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Rockheaded are you saying the so called marriages that were not legally recognized were nothing more than adulterous affairs and therby making any offspring from said illicit relations a bastard?
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Boaz & Lidia wrote:Rockheaded are you saying the so called marriages that were not legally recognized were nothing more than adulterous affairs and therby making any offspring from said illicit relations a bastard?


There were no children so there aren't any little bastards running around. The Utah Church is proving that with their DNA research. So there wasn't an adulterous affair either. That's basically what I am saying.
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Hello,
Well, I think and I believe that the Pro-Polygamy revelation, Doctrine and Covenants Section 132, could've have been a 'Revelation' from the devil. Doctrine and Covenants Section 132 is in pretty very much in direct Contradiction to Jacob Chapter Two, in the Book of Mormon. Jacob Chapter two, in the Book of Mormon clearly and fully condemns the Practice of Polygamy. Please Check out and See:

The Book of Mormon condemns the Practice of Polygamy:
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Did he get D&C 132 via the seer stone?
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RockHeaded wrote:
Boaz & Lidia wrote:Rockheaded are you saying the so called marriages that were not legally recognized were nothing more than adulterous affairs and therby making any offspring from said illicit relations a bastard?


There were no children so there aren't any little bastards running around. The Utah Church is proving that with their DNA research. So there wasn't an adulterous affair either. That's basically what I am saying.
Perhaps, at least not yet with Smith. However, their are plenty of recorded offspring from other prominent polygamists...

Would you consider those children bastards?
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Is this true?
Bruce R. McConkie made this statement: "In imitation of the true order of heaven whereby seers receive revelations from God through a Urim and Thummim, the devil gives his own revelations to some of his followers through peep stones or crystal balls" (Mormon Doctrine, 1966, pp.565-66).


If you can find the same or similar in an official publication of the Church, yes. Otherwise, maybe, maybe not.
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="RockHeaded"I was asking the marriage license question because it was a good point. That poor girl was made fun of because she didn't know her church believes Joseph Smith was married to a 14 year old girl. The point was, there isn't a license therefore no marriage. You are taking this thread of course, but I might suggest you read the D&C it states all marriages withen the church require a marriage license.



Well, this may be a bit off topic but I'll post it and see.

Why is it that the church requires a marriage license when in the Old Testament, marriage licenses didn't exist.

and...

When LDS are challenged on the topic of polygamy, they use the Old Testament as proof of God sanctioning polygamy?

Am I thinking in circles? I might be...is that wrongheaded of me or LDS?
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Jersey Girl wrote:Why is it that the church requires a marriage license when in the Old Testament, marriage licenses didn't exist.


I am just guessing but I think they would say they are obeying the current law of the land.
I think it would be morally right to lie about your religion to edit the article favorably.
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Pokatator wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:Why is it that the church requires a marriage license when in the Old Testament, marriage licenses didn't exist.


I am just guessing but I think they would say they are obeying the current law of the land.


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Re: Is this true?

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tumult wrote:Bruce R. McConkie made this statement: "In imitation of the true order of heaven whereby seers receive revelations from God through a Urim and Thummim, the devil gives his own revelations to some of his followers through peep stones or crystal balls" (Mormon Doctrine, 1966, pp.565-66).

I pulled this from a post at another LDS information website.


The full entry:

PEEP STONES

See Devil, Revelation, Urim and Thummim. In imitation of the true order of heaven whereby seers receive revelations from God through a Urim and Thummim, the devil gives his own revelations to some of his followers through peep stones or crystal balls. An instance of this copying of the true order occured in the early days of this dispensation. Hiram Page had such a stone and was professing to have revelations for the upbuilding of Zion and governing of the Church. Oliver Cowdery and some others were wrongly influenced thereby in consequence of which Oliver was commanded by revelation: "Thou shalt take thy brother, Hiram Page, between him and thee alone, and tell him that those things which he hath written from that stone are not of me, and that Satan hath deceived him." (D&C 28:11)
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