What, exactly, is the gospel?

[_antishock8]

Its whatever you want it to be.

Actually, this is the most accurate description I've read so far. Hard to argue since there are so many sects and schisms... 10 points to Gryffindor.

[_Gazelam]

Its whatever you want it to be.

Actually, this is the most accurate description I've read so far. Hard to argue since there are so many sects and schisms... 10 points to Gryffindor.

Sounds like your ready to be an evangelical. There are some mega churches you can find that you would probably feel right at home in. They usually have a great rock band and the sermons are so anemic they hardly offend anyone ever.

[_Jersey Girl]

Its whatever you want it to be.

Actually, this is the most accurate description I've read so far. Hard to argue since there are so many sects and schisms... 10 points to Gryffindor.

Sounds like your ready to be an evangelical. There are some mega churches you can find that you would probably feel right at home in. They usually have a great rock band and the sermons are so anemic they hardly offend anyone ever.

Really? How do you know what mega churches usually have or what the sermons are like?

[_Gazelam]

Jersey,

Really? How do you know what mega churches usually have or what the sermons are like?

My apologies. Its ignorant of me to paint all of them with a broad brush. I shouldent let the one I visited speak for all of the others.

But I do think that they hit all around the target without ever hitting the mark. I get frustrated when I hear their sermons. i feel like at any moment they are going to make some great statement and they get right to the edge and then miss it. I tend to hear alot of story telling and very little doctrine taught.

[_ludwigm]

Did You EVER think about people who are not native-english-speakers?
Can You imagine, how were conveyed the eternal truths filtered by translation?

For example, look this word.
Phaedrus Ut made a good explanation.
Under http://www.answers.com/topic/gospel there is a shorter one:

n.
- 1. often Gospel The proclamation of the redemption preached by Jesus and the Apostles, which is the central content of Christian revelation.
- 2.
- - a. Gospel Bible. One of the first four New Testament books, describing the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus and recording his teaching.
- - b. A similar narrative.
- 3. often Gospel A lection from any of the first four New Testament books included as part of a religious service.
- 4. A teaching or doctrine of a religious teacher.
- 5. Music. Gospel music.
- 6. Something, such as an idea or principle, accepted as unquestionably true: My parents' rules were gospel.
adj.
- 1. often Gospel Of or in accordance with the Gospel; evangelical.
- 2. Of or relating to gospel music.
[Middle English, from Old English gōdspel (ultimately translation of Greek euangelion) : gōd, good; see good + spel, news.]

Our (hungarian) word is evangélium which is a little distorted form of the original greek word.
Its meanings are - in every hungarian dictionary - only the "Second Amendment" and "3" item above. Sometimes the "2b" one.
No more. I repeat, NO MORE. There is nothing anti or atheist sound in it. Languages are different. That is it.

This means, that most usage of the word in Mormon environment make no sense in hungarian. People with limited understanding are usually parroting that sentences. Others can think only "what does he say? what should this mean?"

"one lives the Gospel", "live the Gospel" are empty sentences in themselves.
Yes, we can express or workaround the meaning as "one lives according to the teachings of the Gospel". Unfortunately, manuals and pamphlets are not translated this way.

Maybe I don't have the Spirit. The Holy one.
Interestingly, for radar manuals and computer system descriptions I never had any problem with their message.

[_Coggins7]

You don't seem to live it in the way you post to people here.

Galatians 5:22-23. You are failing Loran. Please repent.

Keep up the pose Jason.

And, for the record, you have not the slightest idea how I "live".



Move alone, nothing to see here...as ever so predictably usual.

[_harmony]

But I do think that they hit all around the target without ever hitting the mark. I get frustrated when I hear their sermons. I feel like at any moment they are going to make some great statement and they get right to the edge and then miss it. I tend to hear alot of story telling and very little doctrine taught.

I find the same thing happening with virtually every talk in sacrament meeting and by far most of the them in general conference. Must be a man-thing.

[_Jersey Girl]

Jersey,

Really? How do you know what mega churches usually have or what the sermons are like?

My apologies. Its ignorant of me to paint all of them with a broad brush. I shouldent let the one I visited speak for all of the others.

But I do think that they hit all around the target without ever hitting the mark. I get frustrated when I hear their sermons. I feel like at any moment they are going to make some great statement and they get right to the edge and then miss it. I tend to hear alot of story telling and very little doctrine taught.

Quite often, EV preachers use stories to illustrate doctrine, Gaz. This is what Jesus did.

[_harmony]

Jersey,

Really? How do you know what mega churches usually have or what the sermons are like?

My apologies. Its ignorant of me to paint all of them with a broad brush. I shouldent let the one I visited speak for all of the others.

But I do think that they hit all around the target without ever hitting the mark. I get frustrated when I hear their sermons. I feel like at any moment they are going to make some great statement and they get right to the edge and then miss it. I tend to hear alot of story telling and very little doctrine taught.

Quite often, EV preachers use stories to illustrate doctrine, Gaz. This is what Jesus did.

So does Pres Monson, but I'm guessing Gaz thinks that's different.

[_Coggins7]

Coggins isn't really in a position to answer this question, because he is a poser who doesn't understand the basic principle of repentance. For his elucidation, I offer this from Mormon.org:

So very typical of the exmo world, isn't it? Beastie has simply long ago run out of anything to actually discuss or debate here, and has curled up comfortably into the safe little womb of petty character assassination that is perhaps the defining characteristic of the exmo world, its psychology, and its literature.

How dreary, how boring, and how predictable.