CA Supreme Court overturns gay marriage ban ...

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Rollo Tomasi wrote:It's being reported on the news outlets. This is gonna tick off the Brethren! Here's a link to one news report:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/G/ ... SECTION=US


Hello Rollo Tomasi,

I am thinking that this is also going to eventually to pave the way for Polygamous Marriages to be legally recognize in the State of California also. Now that will really tick off the Brethren.
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Brackite wrote:I am thinking that this is also going to eventually to pave the way for Polygamous Marriages to be legally recognize in the State of California also.

In footnote 52 of the court's opinion, it declared that its decision "does not affect the constitutional validity of the existing legal prohibitions against polygamy and the marriage of close relatives." So, at least for now, it appears the State of California can still discriminate against polygamous and incestuous couples.
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Rollo Tomasi wrote:
Brackite wrote:I am thinking that this is also going to eventually to pave the way for Polygamous Marriages to be legally recognize in the State of California also.

In footnote 52 of the court's opinion, it declared that its decision "does not affect the constitutional validity of the existing legal prohibitions against polygamy and the marriage of close relatives." So, at least for now, it appears the State of California can still discriminate against polygamous and incestuous couples.

I don't understand why the courts can legally discriminate against incestuous couples. The genetic argument doesn't hold for me since we allow people with known genetic diseases to marry and produce offspring with everything from blindness, hemophilia, mental handicaps, or what have you.
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asbestosman wrote:I don't understand why the courts can legally discriminate against incestuous couples. The genetic argument doesn't hold for me since we allow people with known genetic diseases to marry and produce offspring with everything from blindness, hemophilia, mental handicaps, or what have you.

The genetic argument would also be invalid against homosexual incestuous couples.
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by the way, you can read the entire 170-odd page court ruling at the link below:

http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/do ... 147999.PDF
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Rollo Tomasi wrote:
Brackite wrote:I am thinking that this is also going to eventually to pave the way for Polygamous Marriages to be legally recognize in the State of California also.

In footnote 52 of the court's opinion, it declared that its decision "does not affect the constitutional validity of the existing legal prohibitions against polygamy and the marriage of close relatives." So, at least for now, it appears the State of California can still discriminate against polygamous and incestuous couples.



So I guess it pays to be popular and have a strong lobby. Selective discrimination is in vogue.


While I do not agree with it, there is no reason to prohibit polygamy between consenting adults. Especially if Gays can marry.
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bcspace wrote:
This is gonna tick off the Brethren!


Hopefully, it will galvanize conservatives in the election.


Great "wedge" thinking there, BC. Again, your incarnation of 4000 BC bronze-age goatherder morality and ethics, in the body of an otherwise capable human being, is a true horror to behold.

Let it go, bro. Your mind need not stay hostage to the man-made worldview you've subscribed to.
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Now I have something to pray about on fast sunday...

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It seems that the CA court is in violation of Baker v. Nelson

Baker is binding precedent and unless overruled by the United States Supreme Court, it remains that way. As such Baker establishes that a State's decision to prohibit same-sex marriage does not offend the United States Constitution.


This case should go all the way.

Again, your incarnation of 4000 BC bronze-age goatherder morality and ethics, in the body of an otherwise capable human being, is a true horror to behold.


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Gazelam wrote:Now I have something to pray about on fast sunday...

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Wow, that's a real Christ-like attitude there..... you Mormons are all the same.
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