Mormon forum lights up over California gay change

[_skippy the dead]

Where was this protection when the church was practicing polygamy? Probably on vacation for several decades waiting for the 1960's. *

* No, I don't like polygamy, but I don't see why it should be the government's buisness to prohibit it. Forced or underage marriages are, of course, different matters.

Polygamy actually produces a plethora of problems when it comes to some of the constructs associated with marriage. I can see why there's a distinction.

[_GoodK]

I guess there are more gay people on this forum than I realized...


My belief is not based on "homophobia," whatever the hell that mean...

Sig lines, anyone?

According to dartagnan I guess you can only be gay if you don't oppose gay marriage.

[_skippy the dead]

I guess there are more gay people on this forum than I realized.

Yeah, because that would be the only explanation for the reaction.

*eyeroll*

[_guy sajer]

I guess there are more gay people on this forum than I realized...


My belief is not based on "homophobia," whatever the hell that mean...

That would be something like "irrational fear/hatred of homosexuals."

You appear to fit this definition to a T.

[Analytics]

TD and Asbestosman, I never once hinted or suggested that children living with gay parents are more likely to be "abused."

I don't think I implied that you had. I certainly didn't think that was what you were saying.

I guess there are more gay people on this forum than I realized.

Cute, but even though my best friend from elementary school is gay, I'm very much a heterosexual and my wife is quite skilled at fulfilling my needs.

Nor is it based on any scientific studies - I admit that too.

Nor is mine. I'm merely relaying what I have heard combined with my own experience on how I learned about sexuality.

I guess in time we will know for sure. Gays adopting babies is a relatively recent phenomenon. Right now there isn't much to study, but there will be eventually.

Perhaps, but gays having babies isn't a new phenomenon. They have had children for quite a while. Daniel (not Peterson) on MADB has kids from a previous marriage.


Edit: Mind you, I'm not for gay marriage, but then I don't think the government should concern itself with legitimizing any unions in particular. Thus I think all marriages should be civil unions including two siblings living together and taking care of each other.

[_asbestosman]

Polygamy actually produces a plethora of problems when it comes to some of the constructs associated with marriage. I can see why there's a distinction.

Ah, but why couldn't the government just be willing to only recognize the first marriage and then not recognize the others kind of like how it does with shack-up situations? Somehow, the courts manage to sort out child custody / visitation / support in our complex divorce, remarriage, and shack-up society.

[_dartagnan]

According to dartagnan I guess you can only be gay if you don't oppose gay marriage.

I don't oppose gay marriage.

Pay attention please.

[_dartagnan]

You appear to fit this definition to a T.

Then you're an idiot if you think I have an "irrational hatred and fear" of homosexuals.

Look how ridiculously you are all reacting.

[_asbestosman]

According to dartagnan I guess you can only be gay if you don't oppose gay marriage.

I don't oppose gay marriage.

Pay attention please.

Right, but if I'm reading you correctly, you do oppose gay adoption on the grounds that it makes things difficult for the children.

I grant that there may be something to that, but everything I've seen so far indicates that this is not the case.

[_dartagnan]

Right, but if I'm reading you correctly, you do oppose gay adoption on the grounds that it makes things difficult for the children.

I grant that there may be something to that, but everything I've seen so far indicates that this is not the case.

I am wary of it. I don't "oppose" it in any meaningful sense. I haven't made it a political issue to swing my vote. But I am wary of the idea only because I have spent a great deal of time with kids.

Only time will tell what kind of effect this will have on them.