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May I ask roughly how old you are? And what is your educational background? Do you have a job? (I am not looking for the kind of detail that would identify you - just some general indications.)

I am not trying to be rude to you, but .... I come from another world, shall we say, and after some of your responses on this and other threads I am wondering where you are 'coming from'.


If I recall correctly, pirate is a young, college-aged woman who is from a different culture. I do not believe english is her primary language. This could explain why she often seems to be coming from another world. She is. ;)
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Post by _harmony »

beastie wrote:
If I recall correctly, pirate is a young, college-aged woman who is from a different culture. I do not believe english is her primary language. This could explain why she often seems to be coming from another world. She is. ;)


Pirate is British.
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harmony wrote:
beastie wrote:
If I recall correctly, pirate is a young, college-aged woman who is from a different culture. I do not believe english is her primary language. This could explain why she often seems to be coming from another world. She is. ;)


Pirate is British.


Whooo, Having a fit here. A little too qweezy to right.

Beastie, I came across you the first day I came onto MDb, I was reading Book of Mormon's blog and that was probably the only serious discussion I had on here.

I will work forwards, makes sense.

Chap wrote:May I ask roughly how old you are? And what is your educational background? Do you have a job? (I am not looking for the kind of detail that would identify you - just some general indications.)

I am not trying to be rude to you, but .... I come from another world, shall we say, and after some of your responses on this and other threads I am wondering where you are 'coming from'.


I am 19, roughly, I am 4x^2 +/- x. I grew up in Scotland, went to Primary School, moved to a different primary school half way through, then went to secondary school. Did, Standard Grades and was going on to do Highers, but left just before, moved to England. Applied to college to study A-levels but was 15, by the time they decided I was not to young and could enrole some of the subjects I wanted to study were full, so I waited for drop outs, Chemistry class was full still, they said I can either leave Chemistry or go else where, I wanted to be a medical Dr so I went elsewhere. Elsewhere decided I was too young and it was too late to study A-levels,so I did a year of GCSE's, then did A-levels. I am now at University. No need to tell you what I am studying because you will only think I am a troll.

I have always worked since I was 13, I stopped working in September to come to uni. I worked in a shop.

The other world is that I think outside the box and see things differently, I was so excited to talk to someone with dissociation last night, who has the same idea's and views as myself.

What does If I recall correctly mean?

I do not know that I come from a different culture, perhaps a different background. I am intruiged to know what my primary language might be. English is what I grew up speaking. In Scotland, we say and write sentences in a different order. My English is poor because I was in my own world and idn't take much in, but I am working on it now.

Can you point out what is wrong with my responces?

I only know what I speak. It is my own language I guess.
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Post by _the road to hana »

Imwashingmypirate wrote:What does If I recall correctly mean?


If I recall correctly.



I do not know that I come from a different culture, perhaps a different background. I am intruiged to know what my primary language might be. English is what I grew up speaking. In Scotland, we say and write sentences in a different order. My English is poor because I was in my own world and idn't take much in, but I am working on it now.

Can you point out what is wrong with my responces?


Nothing whatever. Americans aren't always used to other ways of speaking and writing English. You have a brilliance and a naïvété that are beautifully interwoven, and charming idioms which are unfamiliar to many here, which makes you endearing.

I only know what I speak. It is my own language I guess.


And brava for you. I recommend you write a book. You'd make millions. Seriously.
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the road to hana wrote:
Imwashingmypirate wrote:What does If I recall correctly mean?


If I recall correctly.



I do not know that I come from a different culture, perhaps a different background. I am intruiged to know what my primary language might be. English is what I grew up speaking. In Scotland, we say and write sentences in a different order. My English is poor because I was in my own world and idn't take much in, but I am working on it now.

Can you point out what is wrong with my responces?


Nothing whatever. Americans aren't always used to other ways of speaking and writing English. You have a brilliance and a naïveté that are beautifully interwoven, and charming idioms which are unfamiliar to many here, which makes you endearing.

I only know what I speak. It is my own language I guess.


And brava for you. I recommend you write a book. You'd make millions. Seriously.


Thanks. I do write, a friend of me told me I will make loads. I have a few crazy idea's. Just to busy with my studies to focus. I only have bits and pieces, the furthest I got was Mr A stories, but I haven't got the motivation to get it online. My friends loved it. Completely random. I would love to write a book.

I have Mr A stories which is more or less complete, then a story that is somewhat religious and symbolic that is incomplete, and started writing about a teenager the day before yesterday, I haven't decided how that will go yet, but I have an idea that she is from a wealthy family but is unhappy. I have 1 chapter of a childrens Physics book which is just a matter of putting together. It is cool, because it is for young people and has lots of interactive stuff and structured in a way that I thing I would have found appealing.

Thanks, your so sweet.
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I am grateful to Imwashingmypirate for her detailed posting in answer to my query about 'where she was coming from'.

Incidentally, I never found anything in her written English to suggest a non-native language user. It is what she says, not her the language she uses to say it, that puzzles me. Now we know that she is a university student, and has spent time in the Scottish educational system, which has the reputation of being rather good, possibly better in some respects than the English one.

On that basis, I should like to say two things by way of totally unsolicited advice:

1. Before you think outside the box, it is a good idea to be sure you know where the edges of the box are, and what shape it is. Your references to Lutheranism, and the fact that people were able to play the 'Madonna' joke on you suggest that your intelligence is not supported by an adequate knowledge base outside the subjects you have studied so far. Intelligence is like the digestive system: you have to give it some solid roughage to work on, or its muscles get loose and it produces nothing but ... well, you get the idea. Why don't you start to build a knowledge base about the contemporary world by reading a good popular weekly current affairs magazine like Time or Newsweek? (If you want something more demanding, try the Economist). To fill in the gaps about what has happened to the human race so far, try something like The New Penguin History of the World (Paperback) by J.M. Roberts. You will find a daily dose intriguing and enlightening.

2. If you want to transcend logical thinking, find out first what that kind of thinking can do, and how it can save you from having other people play tricks on your mind - a very necessary skill, I suggest, for anyone who is in contact with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Try reading, for instance, How to Think Straight: An Introduction to Critical Reasoning by Anthony Flew.

If you follow this prescription, I guarantee that after a few months of treatment you will stop feeling gullible. You may even start to feel canny!

In return for all this unsolicited advice, could you tell us how someone like yourself happens to be a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints? Were you born into the church? Or were you converted to it? If the latter, what was your religious experience up to that point? What made you think the church was true?

Of course you are under no obligation to answer any of those questions, or to take any notice of this post at all.
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Chap wrote:2. If you want to transcend logical thinking, find out first what that kind of thinking can do, and how it can save you from having other people play tricks on your mind - a very necessary skill, I suggest, for anyone who is in contact with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Try reading, for instance, How to Think Straight: An Introduction to Critical Reasoning by Anthony Flew.

If you follow this prescription, I guarantee that after a few months of treatment you will stop feeling gullible. You may even start to feel canny!


I've never read any books on critical thinking and I feel quite canny. If I read a book will I become super canny?
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Post by _Mercury »

Imwashingmypirate wrote:
KimberlyAnn wrote:Lutherans come from Martin Luther King?

And all this time I thought it was Martin Luther!

Pirate, you need to check your Wiki article again. You're confused.


KA


Isn't Martin Luther and Martin Luther king the same person? I visualise a man standing in front of people teaching and black people having to sit at the back of the bus. Which one is that? Hmm... I will go have a look.

Thanks.

Eta: Oh I was thinking of Martin Luther King, I didn't know there was another one. Hmm... So he is not the leader of the Lutherans. Cool.


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Bond...James Bond wrote:
Chap wrote:2. If you want to transcend logical thinking, find out first what that kind of thinking can do, and how it can save you from having other people play tricks on your mind - a very necessary skill, I suggest, for anyone who is in contact with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Try reading, for instance, How to Think Straight: An Introduction to Critical Reasoning by Anthony Flew.

If you follow this prescription, I guarantee that after a few months of treatment you will stop feeling gullible. You may even start to feel canny!


I've never read any books on critical thinking and I feel quite canny. If I read a book will I become super canny?


Yup. You will get so sharp you will be in danger of cutting yourself.
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Chap wrote:
Bond...James Bond wrote:
Chap wrote:2. If you want to transcend logical thinking, find out first what that kind of thinking can do, and how it can save you from having other people play tricks on your mind - a very necessary skill, I suggest, for anyone who is in contact with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Try reading, for instance, How to Think Straight: An Introduction to Critical Reasoning by Anthony Flew.

If you follow this prescription, I guarantee that after a few months of treatment you will stop feeling gullible. You may even start to feel canny!


I've never read any books on critical thinking and I feel quite canny. If I read a book will I become super canny?


Yup. You will get so sharp you will be in danger of cutting yourself.


I'll be careful. Don't wanna give myself a haircut by running my hand through my hair.
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