Religious idiots... shut up

[_GoodK]

And again: I don't know how you've arrived at the conclusion that it's a good thing I rebelled against my dad. That certainly can't be based on anything here.

I hope you weren't just looking for a cheap shot. It would be sad to see someone of your character resorting to such tactics.

by the way, Jersey Girl is the one to bring up my dick. It's not my style to talk so crudely. And before that Kevin accused me of not paying for my own contraceptives.

But whatever, sweetie. I'm sorry you feel so defensive.

I intended to refer to your dick as in the royal dick, not your dick personally as in "little GoodK". And yes, you do talk crudely.

little Goodk. That's cute, Jersey Girl.

[_Jersey Girl]

That's not my problem, marg. It's yours. And your children's. Of course, if they like being referred to as baby goats, then whatever term you use to refer to them in a family setting, no harm no foul.

However, as you well know, for clarity sake, use of the accepted vernacular helps convey one's point. And in the real world, children are not kids.

I was simply trying to get a handle on what age "kids" GoodK was referring to. I can't help that I want definition here or that I generally balk at people using the slang term "kids". In my profession, I am accustomed to definition by ages and stages of development. I speak/write/think in terms of "children" as in all underage minors unless and until someone gives me a more clear developmental picture to deal with. The word "kids" isn't in my professional vocabulary because it's slang.

I want to see some ages here, I haven't seen any yet. I haven't seen any ages nor have I seen any lines drawn on what "kids" should have access to free birth control or just exactly what type of birth control we're talking about handing out.

[_Jersey Girl]

And again: I don't know how you've arrived at the conclusion that it's a good thing I rebelled against my dad. That certainly can't be based on anything here.

I hope you weren't just looking for a cheap shot. It would be sad to see someone of your character resorting to such tactics.

by the way, Jersey Girl is the one to bring up my dick. It's not my style to talk so crudely. And before that Kevin accused me of not paying for my own contraceptives.

But whatever, sweetie. I'm sorry you feel so defensive.

I intended to refer to your dick as in the royal dick, not your dick personally as in "little GoodK". And yes, you do talk crudely.

little Goodk. That's cute, Jersey Girl.

I bet.
;-)

[_Jersey Girl]

Before I continue here, GoodK, I want to know why you can't keep that religious flag out of my face? Where have I given you anything BUT non-religious material/issues/reasons/opinions/fact based experience to deal with here?

Royal dick? Is this what you were talking about, a veterinary school in the UK?

I take offense to you saying I talk crudely. Please, give me an example of that, or apologize, before I go on.

But I'll answer your question: I wave the religious flag in your face because the reasons you have given are not valid reasons. You say you don't want to pay for it, but it is less expensive to give kids birth control than to pay for their unwanted pregnancies. Which is why I asked you again for a better non-religious reason for why kids who need birth control should not get it. If you gave it, forgive me, I must have missed it in the midst of all my crude posting.

I wasn't referring to your crude language on the main board. Give me access to your blog (unless you've deleted your blog) and I'll be glad to post crude language that you've posted there.

I haven't seen you refute one single reason that I've given. How have you determined what is or is not a "valid" reason here?

Show me.

[_GoodK]

You are usually a bit sharper than this... what's up?

I dunno. Do I seem a bit sharper when I agree with you? Go figure.

Why are you promoting a lifestyle of dependency for the underage minors whom you seem to think have some sort of right to free birth control?

What!?? you have agreed with me? When was this. CFR ;]

I am not promoting a lifestyle of dependency. I am promoting a solution that is based on a simple cost benefit analysis. What costs more?

But I think maybe I'm a little closer to the reality of this situation than you and Harmony.

News flash: Teenagers don't care too much about what adults tell them is right and wrong.

If you think taking away or refusing to give out birth control is going to be effective in curbing sexual activity, I hate to tell you how out of touch you are.

[_Jersey Girl]

Hmmm...I just checked in on your blog, entitled "A Little GoodK" ;-). I thought I didn't have access because it doesn't appear on the main screen. Apparently there are no longer entries on it. Do you deny speaking crudely in your previous entries there?

[_Jersey Girl]

You are usually a bit sharper than this... what's up?

I dunno. Do I seem a bit sharper when I agree with you? Go figure.

Why are you promoting a lifestyle of dependency for the underage minors whom you seem to think have some sort of right to free birth control?

What you have agreed with me? When was this. CFR ;]

I am not promoting a lifestyle of dependency. I am promoting a solution that is based on a simple cost benefit analysis. What costs more?

But I think maybe I'm a little closer to the reality of this situation than you and Harmony.

News flash: Teenagers don't care too much about what adults tell them is right and wrong.

If you think taking away or refusing to give out birth control is going to be effective in curbing sexual activity, I hate to tell you how out of touch you are.

GoodK,

I am in touch with teenagers and their children , as well as the "reality" of the situation, every single day of each and every week. It is just as I stated previously in a post regarding what I do for a living, which you largely ignored.

There are better and other ways to help curb sexual activity than dispensing "free" birth control to underage minors, GoodK. You make it appear as if underage minors (teens, kids, goats, wtf ever) are brainless/helpless/dependent victims of their own impulses. What you've suggested on this thread contributes to that dependency. It disgusts me beyond belief how you paint a picture of young people who have no other choices or parents who have no other choices or a society who have no other choices than to dispense birth control to helpless impulse driven teens that essentially puts a band aid on a gaping wound in this society.

Good hell, think with your brain.

[_Jersey Girl]

A couple of things I want to see here, that I don't think have been clearly defined.

1. What age "kids" should be given "free" birth control?
2. What type of "free" birth control should they be given?
3. What, if any, side effects accompany said "free" birth control?
4. Is the "free" birth control given with or without parental awareness?

[_GoodK]

You are usually a bit sharper than this... what's up?

I dunno. Do I seem a bit sharper when I agree with you? Go figure.

Why are you promoting a lifestyle of dependency for the underage minors whom you seem to think have some sort of right to free birth control?

What you have agreed with me? When was this. CFR ;]

I am not promoting a lifestyle of dependency. I am promoting a solution that is based on a simple cost benefit analysis. What costs more?

But I think maybe I'm a little closer to the reality of this situation than you and Harmony.

News flash: Teenagers don't care too much about what adults tell them is right and wrong.

If you think taking away or refusing to give out birth control is going to be effective in curbing sexual activity, I hate to tell you how out of touch you are.

GoodK,

I am in touch with teenagers and their children , as well as the "reality" of the situation, every single day of each and every week. It is just as I stated previously in a post regarding what I do for a living, which you largely ignored.

There are better and other ways to help curb sexual activity than dispensing "free" birth control to underage minors, GoodK. You make it appear as if underage minors (teens, kids, goats, wtf ever) are brainless/helpless/dependent victims of their own impulses. What you've suggested on this thread contributes to that dependency. It disgusts me beyond belief how you paint a picture of young people who have no other choices or parents who have no other choices or a society who have no other choices than to dispense birth control to helpless impulse driven teens that essentially puts a band aid on a gaping wound in this society.

Good hell, think with your brain.

I'm trying to, Jersey Girl. But my brain has a hard time comprehending where you are going with this. I didn't know that what I've suggested on this thread contributes to what you call a dependency. All I know is that there are pharmacists who are refusing to dispense birth control, and for religious reasons, and that is idiotic to me. I wish the pharmacists would loose their jobs for refusing to do their job properly.

I never said "young people have no other choices". I said something along the lines of: It is not your choice to decide when someone deserves birth control.

Of course you are entitled to have beliefs regarding sexuality and birth control. But when you essentially force young girls to have babies who don't want them or aren't capable of taking care of a baby, you are effecting all of us.

That baby will cost all of us, Jersey Girl. Go ahead, teach kids about making wise decisions about sex. Give them a chicken egg to take care of for a week to learn some responsibility. In the mean time, don't worry about the kids that are using birth control. The alternative, not using birth control, is not any sort of a solution.

[_Jersey Girl]

I'm trying to, Jersey Girl. But my brain has a hard time comprehending where you are going with this. I didn't know that what I've suggested on this thread contributes to what you call a dependency. All I know is that there are pharmacists who are refusing to dispense birth control, and for religious reasons, and that is idiotic to me. I wish the pharmacists would loose their jobs for refusing to do their job properly

Stop right there. Disconnect alert! You and I have been talking about dispensing "free" birth control to underage minors and now you are lopping in pharmacists refusing to dispense birth control.

Do you see how you're hopping around here?

Those are two different issues. Pick a spot and land on it.

I'll reply to the rest of your above post as I have time.