Internet Mormons and Joseph Smith.

[_KimberlyAnn]

Congratulations for graduating from the ranks of the lazy, unmotivated general membership who lack the initiative to get up and spend hours upon hours on the internet and reading apologetic materials to find out 'the rest of the story,' as it were. Prof P. and the rest of the FARMSistas would certainly be proud of you.

Is it any wonder you have such a following here, Guy? You cut right through the B.S!

In my opinion, the so-called "internet Mormons" are willingly ignorant, as opposed to the general membership, who are simply misled and too busy or preoccupied with daily life to know it. Internet Mormons know the problems with the LDS church, yet somehow manage to dismiss the obvious: that Joseph Smith was a lying son-of-a-bitch. I do not know how they can perform such mental gymnastics, and I do not admire them for it, nor find them any more intelligent or motivated than "chapel Mormons".

That any "internet Mormon" could possibly look down upon or feel superior to a "chapel Mormon" is beyond me. I'm not implying that all the "internet Mormons" on this board necessarily do that, but I've read enough to know that some do.

KA

[_rcrocket]

Let me give my philosophy. The more dishonest and corrupt the character, the weaker the testimony. Your advice to Scottie to lie to the government and his ex-wife about his income demonstrates dishonesty and corruption.

Obviously reading comprehension isn't one of your strong suits.

Please go back and show me where, specifically, I advised Scottie to lie to the government.

You just lack moral character. Anybody can see from your post to Scottie. Advising him to lie about his income in divorce proceedings hurts Scottie, his ex-wife and their children. Never lie over money. Never.

[_Dr. Shades]

That any "internet Mormon" could possibly look down upon or feel superior to a "chapel Mormon" is beyond me.

Yes, especially when one considers that God is a Chapel Mormon, not an Internet Mormon.

Please go back and show me where, specifically, I advised Scottie to lie to the government.

You just lack moral character.

Thanks, but that doesn't answer the question. Please go back and show me where, specifically, I advised Scottie to lie to the government. You know, the thing which you accused me of having done.

I'll be waiting.

Advising him to lie about his income in divorce proceedings hurts Scottie, his ex-wife and their children.

Please go back and show me where, specifically, I advised Scottie to lie in divorce proceedings.

I'll be waiting.

[_rcrocket]

Just read the post for yourself. This is pathetic. Staple your post to your employment applications. Be sure to do so.

[_Dr. Shades]

Just read the post for yourself. This is pathetic. Staple your post to your employment applications. Be sure to do so.

Thanks, but that doesn't answer the question. Please go back and show me where, specifically, I advised Scottie to lie to the government and in divorce proceedings.

Thanks in advance.

[_rcrocket]

I challenge you to reproduce (and thus re-adopt and re-affirm) your post here and now for all to see. Then they can draw their own conclusions.

Thanks.

[_Dr. Shades]

I challenge you to reproduce (and thus re-adopt and re-affirm) your post here and now for all to see. Then they can draw their own conclusions.

Okay. Here you go:

How did she find out that you got a raise?

If I was in your shoes, I think I'd start claiming every so often that your pay had been cut.

Now, please go back and show me where, specifically, I advised Scottie to lie to the government and in divorce proceedings.

[_TrashcanMan79]

I challenge you to reproduce (and thus re-adopt and re-affirm) your post here and now for all to see. Then they can draw their own conclusions.

Okay. Here you go:

How did she find out that you got a raise?

If I was in your shoes, I think I'd start claiming every so often that your pay had been cut.

Now, please go back and show me where, specifically, I advised Scottie to lie to the government and in divorce proceedings.

The conclusion I draw: Dr. Shades, were he in Scottie's position, would probably lie to his ex. Not the government. Not in divorce proceedings.

[_Mister Scratch]

The trouble with this is that Shades's dichotomy is directly in line with the advice given by Elder Packer in "The Mantle is Far, Far Greater than the Intellect." In other words, according to BKP, a good percentage of members of the Church would be better off if they were kept dumb. (Hence, the "Mantle" is "Greater than the Intellect".)

We are all aware of your careful misreading and misinterpretation of Packer's talk.

Oh? Well, if that's the case, then it should be no problem for you or anyone else to clearly demonstrate how I have "misinterpreted" the talk. The best stab at this came from Ben McGuire, who rather fruitlessly tried to argue that the fact that BKP was delivering the talk to Church educators somehow proved his point. But, as we all know, Church educators are the ones responsible for educating the Saints. Thus, if educators are being ordered to keep the membership "in the dark," then it stands to reason that the Brethren would like to keep the membership dumb.

You would actually, however, have to have some substantive and nuanced understanding of LDS doctrine and philosophy to work your way through that, which, as we all know, will not be forthcoming from your end any time soon.

You worrying about intellect is like Godzilla worrying about etiquette.

Let me ask you this: When was the last time you discussed Helen Mar Kimball with another member of your ward? Better yet, when was something like this---or problems w/ the Book of Abraham, or Joseph Smith's face in the hat, or Joseph Smith's pistol at Carthage, etc.---discussed in an official capacity during Sunday School?

[_bcspace]

"Internet Mormon"?