Lost Car Keys

[_The Nehor]

Nehor, I understand you have faith, and understand that it's important in your life. I just can not choose to believe in a God that would be praised for finding kitties, car keys, and the like while his children (made in his image) wail for him in all parts of this world and are ignored by Him. This is no God I will praise or believe in. If I did believe in him I'd curse him -- for real -- not in a mocking manner. He can smote me at anytime.

Problem here.....most of them are not wailing for him. Many are wailing at him but that's not the same thing. I've done both. One I get helped with. The other I get nothing or (rarely) smitten.

Well, I think it's not in doubt that people routinely plead with God to help them. Anyway, it's nice to see you back, Nehor. I missed you.

Thanks. Some people do plead to God. Some people complain to him. Some curse him. God answers some and not others. I don't know why entirely. I only have guesses.

Sorry it took so long to respond. It was such a beautiful day out I decided to take some time to swim and work on my tan during my lunch break.

[_Mister Scratch]

Agency is the power to make choices. It is essentially free will.

God is also not too busy retrieving car keys. God is omnipotent. He could save all of the above simultaneously and have every key ever made be found simultaneously as well. Why does God choose to sometimes intervene and sometimes not? I can't do a case by case. God is omniscient and knows better then me what can and must be done. If I lost my keys tomorrow and never found them again my faith would be in no way shaken.

I agree with this. For example, if somebody says, "Hey everyone, I won't be online here for a while (at least a month or two) and perhaps I might leave forever starting late tomorrow," and then shows up well less than "at least a month," it is because this person has exercised free agency and has chosen, via his/her free will to make a liar out of him/her self.

[_The Nehor]

Agency is the power to make choices. It is essentially free will.

God is also not too busy retrieving car keys. God is omnipotent. He could save all of the above simultaneously and have every key ever made be found simultaneously as well. Why does God choose to sometimes intervene and sometimes not? I can't do a case by case. God is omniscient and knows better then me what can and must be done. If I lost my keys tomorrow and never found them again my faith would be in no way shaken.

I agree with this. For example, if somebody says, "Hey everyone, I won't be online here for a while (at least a month or two) and perhaps I might leave forever starting late tomorrow," and then shows up well less than "at least a month," it is because this person has exercised free agency and has chosen, via his/her free will to make a liar out of him/her self.

Feel free to update my dossier Uncle Creepy.

I'm sorry I wasn't so pedantic and that I didn't keep track on a calendar. I actually expected to be out of the area and out of easy internet access much longer then I was. I apologize for my plans changing and deciding to come back. There, now that that is out of the way and I'm back, feel free to continue your perverse examination of my sexual life.

[_Mister Scratch]

Agency is the power to make choices. It is essentially free will.

God is also not too busy retrieving car keys. God is omnipotent. He could save all of the above simultaneously and have every key ever made be found simultaneously as well. Why does God choose to sometimes intervene and sometimes not? I can't do a case by case. God is omniscient and knows better then me what can and must be done. If I lost my keys tomorrow and never found them again my faith would be in no way shaken.

I agree with this. For example, if somebody says, "Hey everyone, I won't be online here for a while (at least a month or two) and perhaps I might leave forever starting late tomorrow," and then shows up well less than "at least a month," it is because this person has exercised free agency and has chosen, via his/her free will to make a liar out of him/her self.

I'm sorry I wasn't so pedantic and that I didn't keep track on a calendar. I actually expected to be out of the area and out of easy internet access much longer then I was. I apologize for my plans changing and deciding to come back.

Hey, no need to apologize to me, my good man. Heavenly Father sees everything you do, and He knows what's in your heart, and what you've said. It's not me who will hold you to account. That said, if you want to apologize for lying, and for being weak, I will gladly hear your appeal.

[_The Nehor]

Hey, no need to apologize to me, my good man. Heavenly Father sees everything you do, and He knows what's in your heart, and what you've said. It's not me who will hold you to account. That said, if you want to apologize for lying, and for being weak, I will gladly hear your appeal.

Yes, no doubt God saw the festering malice in my heart dedicated to convincing you I would be gone 8 days more then I actually would. I apologize for the lie and the inconvenience it caused you though I don't get what it could have done. Not sure why this makes me weak. A shift in travel plans doesn't make me think others are weak.......perhaps in your scheming world it does.

I have no need to appeal to you. As I said, file this away so you can call me a liar at some future time you find convenient. Wouldn't want the king/queen of gossip to languish without material.

Okay, just asked God if I needed to repent of anything. Answer: No. Guess I'm in the clear.

I do apologize to Moniker for helping you derail her thread.