Is Smith's polygamy the Achilles' heel of Mormonism?

[_bcspace]

For starters, if the claim is that you can't get to heaven without Joseph Smith's permission, then you must admit that you can't get to heaven without any of the saints' permission according to the Bible

Ok...does LDS theology adhere to this claim? I have never heard that it does.

It's taught in the scriptures, therefore it is part of our theology.

It does seem to adhere to the belief that Joseph Smith will be sitting on the right hand of Jesus, and that he will be judging us right along with the Godhead.

Not any more than we we too will be actually sitting IN the throne (Revelation 3:21).

Not to mention the "No man has done more save Jesus". This would seem to place him on a higher level than the average prophet.

D&C 135:3

[_RockHeaded]

bcspace, this all seems contradictory because Jacob 2 say's this:

You need to read all the way to verse 30.

There is not one part of Jacob 2 which okays polygamy, in fact is condemns it.

27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.
33 For they shall not lead away captive the daughters of my people because of their tenderness, save I shall visit them with a sore curse, even unto destruction; for they shall not commit whoredoms, like unto them of old, saith the Lord of Hosts.


God is saying that IF they commit whoredoms (have more than one wife/polygamy) their land will be cursed. He (God) will command His people to raise up righteous seed, otherwise they will commit these whoredoms (polygamy). He will curse them if they commit these whoredoms. This does not lagitamize polygamy it is opposit of that. If the 'righteous seed' part is lagitamizing polygamy then Jacob 2 contradicts itself because God said that no man will have more than one wife (that is very clear).


RockHeaded

The Book of Mormon was published in 1830, then in 1831 God told Joe it was OK to cheat on his wife and doink the MiaMaids and Laurels, then in 1835 God gives Joe the following and cannonizes it:

"Inasmuch as this church of Christ has been reproached with the crime of fornication, and polygamy: we declare that we believe, that one man should have one wife; and one woman, but one husband, except in the case of death, when either is at liberty to marry again." (1835 edition of the Doctrine and Covenants, section 101, verse 4)

Was God confused??? Or just stoned from snorting too much stardust?

If this is what you want to believe that's great. You probably think that the national enquirer is all true as well. ;)

[_moksha]

How so??

For starters, if the claim is that you can't get to heaven without Joseph Smith's permission, then you must admit that you can't get to heaven without any of the saints' permission according to the Bible

Ok...does LDS theology adhere to this claim? I have never heard that it does.

It does seem to adhere to the belief that Joseph Smith will be sitting on the right hand of Jesus, and that he will be judging us right along with the Godhead.

Jesus is the arbiter in the Bible.

[_Mercury]

How so??

For starters, if the claim is that you can't get to heaven without Joseph Smith's permission, then you must admit that you can't get to heaven without any of the saints' permission according to the Bible

Ok...does LDS theology adhere to this claim? I have never heard that it does.

It does seem to adhere to the belief that Joseph Smith will be sitting on the right hand of Jesus, and that he will be judging us right along with the Godhead.

Jesus is the arbiter in the Bible.

Here is another Arbitor:

[_bcspace]

Jesus is the arbiter in the Bible.

According to the Bible verses I presented, it seems that he's delegted that to the saints. Take note also of Revelation 3:21. Who is going to be sitting in who's throne?