LifeOnaPlate wrote:My little family is pretty poor, thus not a lot of extra dough for food storage. Thus we planted a little garden this Spring. It's a little, but hey, it's what we could do.
I knew an LDS family that installed a pony wall by their kitchen. You could flip open the top of it and drop cans of food in various slots. They would buy more cans fo food than they needed in small increments, and drop them down the slot, the supply was always fresh because at the bottom of the wall were drawers where you could take out the bottom can when you wanted the product.
So they had a wall of food that was in good condition, and it wasn't an imposition to aquire !
what is a pony wall?
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LifeOnaPlate wrote:My little family is pretty poor, thus not a lot of extra dough for food storage. Thus we planted a little garden this Spring. It's a little, but hey, it's what we could do.
Actually, unless you have free water, don't buy the plants or seeds, use no fertilizer, and don't count the labor and time, buying canned food is cheaper than growing your own. Of course, there's nothing like a home-grown tomato, fresh from the vine, with a little salt... And let's not forget benefits of fresh air and hard work! But if we're just counting pennies, it's cheaper to buy them canned. It's definitely cheaper to buy them canned than to try preserving them yourself.
This was passed around in my ward. Stuff like this pops up all the time. Maybe he said it maybe not. But the Church leaders have said that people should not circulate stuff like this. They don't like to be quoted from off the cuff remarks. Direction like this typically comes in formal training of area 70s, SPs at GC and letters.
whether it is true or not I think it needs to be held up as an example
Oh the wisdom and scholarship of Mercury! The Lord has seen fit to allow Mercury to look up from his ewes and bless us with his knowledge.
Whether it is actually true that this came from Mr Little Factory is still remained to be seen is what I was referring to.
Let me clarify: This is scare tactics borrowing fear from the current economic hiccup being used to have the flock hold to the values that have been branded into their brains. Times are tough in the church and in the economy and if you don't have a steady source of income you are at a high risk of instability. Everythign will be fine though if you are religiously tied to your business and personal bank though...that's what he leaves out.
Boyd, the D-list CEO is lecturing the common man in this supposed speech. But like what has been said in other post, there has always been an undercurrent for the Mormon wet dream, a.k.a. the last days gathering of the saints meat bandied about in twenty second inserts into sermons, whispered about at scout camp devotionals and reinforced by food storage usage expectancies.
Mormons have a fetish for survivalism because it plays into the deep seated persecution complex that is engraved onto their brains while in their youth.
Nothing wrong with planning and preparing to take care of oneself. I know many LDS who when they found themselves out of work were able to eat some from food storage
Watching ones budget, getting out of debt, having an emergency fund of three to six months of vital expenses and even storing some food is wise and prudent whether you believe in the LDS Church or not.
Gazelam wrote: Economies of scale Gaz, the previous fuel crisis saw the price of gas quadruple. We again are seeing the price of gas quadruple. Supply is not meeting with demand and there are variables that are out of the control of market adjustments at this time.
I believe that if you adjust the current price of gas to 1980 dollars we are at a slightly higher price per gallon now then we were then.
dude, food is nothing. this food storage mentality is ridiculous. A Mormon Journal reads, "...A month later, I found myself out of work. And I thanked the Lord for the principle of food storage, for our family did sup together from the goods previously stored up in sacredness within the pony wall."
The problem with being out of a job isn't food. seriously. I could eat for like 20$ a week if I had to. You can get a huge bag of egg noodles for 1$ that will fill you for three or four days (don't tell Gaz, wouldn't want to deprive him of the lessons learned from a month of making noodles from raw ingredients in his garage). No chance of starving in this economy. The problem with being out of a job is making mortgage payments and car payments. Stuff like that. Which is why I say, get the credit cards and the HELOC, but keep it all zeros until there's a problem. Food isn't going to save you from being evicted or foreclosed on. Eating is the easy part.
LifeOnaPlate wrote:My little family is pretty poor, thus not a lot of extra dough for food storage. Thus we planted a little garden this Spring. It's a little, but hey, it's what we could do.
Actually, unless you have free water, don't buy the plants or seeds, use no fertilizer, and don't count the labor and time, buying canned food is cheaper than growing your own. Of course, there's nothing like a home-grown tomato, fresh from the vine, with a little salt... And let's not forget benefits of fresh air and hard work! But if we're just counting pennies, it's cheaper to buy them canned. It's definitely cheaper to buy them canned than to try preserving them yourself.
I grow a garden every year, and you're right, Harmony. It costs me more to grow the veggies than it would for me to purchase them.
I wonder if times are going to be tough on people or the church as the rumors that I hear is that they are not getting too many white american males as converts. This appears to be their bread and butter.
as for energy: I think you will see huge developments in car battery's and hybrids in the next twenty years and good old saudi arabia will be about as important as belize.
But an Obama win may hasten an acoplyptic moment for the world if we pull out of iraq, which results in a shite sponsered genocide, which results in refugees, which results in chaos in the middle east which means twenty dollars a gallon of gas in 2010 which results in a complete world melt down and wars and rumors of wars and more wars.
Gadianton, I love your level headed posts in this thread. A work opportunity is causing my family to move to Manhattan at the end of the summer, and there's simply no way for us to create and move a room full of hoarded food. LOL We happen to have four backpacks full of survival stuff that my parents gave us for Christmas one year. We'll take that. If there's another 9/11 attack or if a real "Cloverfield" event actually hits NYC, the 48 hour kits might be useful even though they will take up valuable closet space. We're set on zero-balance credit cards and once we sell our vehicles, there will be be no debt hanging over us. Maybe we should buy an extra pair of walking shoes in case of emergencies. That's about the best we can do.
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