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_Trevor
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Post by _Trevor »

MAsh wrote:de gustibus non est disputandum

Mike Ash


Indeed.

On the other hand, I wonder whether it is not more difficult to take something seriously that is so apparently sensationalist.
“I was hooked from the start,” Snoop Dogg said. “We talked about the purpose of life, played Mousetrap, and ate brownies. The kids thought it was off the hook, for real.”
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Post by _Boaz & Lidia »

OMFG!!!

It looks like something a low budget baptist church would produce.


So is this a new acronym? SFS

I can hear em in PEC on sunday morning...

"S/he is suffering from SFS..."

Or a recovered SFS victim in Relief Society: "I have been out for a while as I was overcoming a severe case of SFS..."

SFS, a.k.a. Logically Thinking.

What a bunch of LOSERS.
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Post by _Gadianton »

The title, of course, is a play on the Shaken Baby Syndrome. There are things that can kill/damage an LDS testimony & hence I felt the title was not only catchy but had some meaning.


Interesting, because as a baby is fragile so is the testimony I suppose. Given in the end it's based on nothing really, other than simply being convinced it's something one has by oneself and others over the years.
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Post by _Boaz & Lidia »

[quote="Infymus"]They have alternate copies as well.

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oh man, someone please call Scratch! He will die from loud laughter!


That could be called LSoaPS (LifeShakenonaPlateSyndrome)
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Infymus wrote:They have alternate copies as well.

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Did someone get upset?

I must be missing something here, or are you saying? No...
“I was hooked from the start,” Snoop Dogg said. “We talked about the purpose of life, played Mousetrap, and ate brownies. The kids thought it was off the hook, for real.”
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Post by _Boaz & Lidia »

TrashcanMan79 wrote:It appears they're running a limited time special:

Retail Price: $19.95

Your Price: Only $19.95


(The retail price had a line drawn through it, but I can't figure out how to do it...)

And yes, the cover is hideous and not in the good way.
Lost your testimonkey®?

No problem! Pay me $19.95 and I will hunt it down like a zealous animal control officer and beat the bejesus BACK into it and place him back on your shoulder whispering the promptings of the Spirit® into your bent ear!

With logical thinking running out of control within the ranks of LDS Inc, Mike is set to make MILLIONS!
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Post by _Boaz & Lidia »

Trevor wrote:
Infymus wrote:They have alternate copies as well.

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Did someone get upset?

I must be missing something here, or are you saying? No...
I think I just heard a plate hit the floor back in the kitchen...
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Shaken Faith Syndrome is a creative way of explaining the obvious in faith-promoting terms. They should call it what it really is: "Confronting uncomfortable truths for the first time."

"Syndrome" presupposes a social or mental disorder, and that is why I don't like it. And we already know that this is typically how Mormons view doubters. People who struggle like this were asking for it when they exposed themselves to information about the Church, outside Church approved resources.

There is something wrong with them! They sinned if they are having doubts!

As if a cure to this "syndrome" is a matter of sinning less and being more obedient to the commandments, etc.
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dartagnan wrote:Shaken Faith Syndrome is a creative way of explaining the obvious in faith-promoting terms. They should call it what it really is: "Confronting uncomfortable truths for the first time."

"Syndrome" presupposes a social or mental disorder, and that is why I don't like it. And we already know that this is typically how Mormons view doubters. People who struggle like this were asking for it when they exposed themselves to information about the Church, outside Church approved resources.

There is something wrong with them! They sinned if they are having doubts!

As if a cure to this "syndrome" is a matter of sinning less and being more obedient to the commandments, etc.


You're reading too much into it, Kevin. It's interesting that of all the people I know who heard the title before it was published, I never heard such an interpretation until some critics saw it.

Dictionary.com for Syndrome

1. Pathology, Psychiatry. a group of symptoms that together are characteristic of a specific disorder, disease, or the like.
2. a group of related or coincident things, events, actions, etc.
3. the pattern of symptoms that characterize or indicate a particular social condition.
4. a predictable, characteristic pattern of behavior, action, etc., that tends to occur under certain circumstances: the retirement syndrome of endless golf and bridge games; the feast-or-famine syndrome of big business.

#1 certainly would agree with the way you understand the term; #4 would not. I'm sorry you don't like it. It wasn't meant to be offensive or to suggest a disease or mental disorder. I thought it was a clever way of depicting the very real damage that happens to the faith (often fragile, as noted by someone else on this board), when they encounter issues that challenge their faith. It can kill or severely damage a testimony (this is nothing new to those on this list). Those who go through deconversion often struggle with a host of feelings-- including anger, frustration, sadness (or even happiness). The negative feelings are serious, and as a believer I think that Shaken Faith Syndrome aptly describes the turmoil that some members encounter when they struggle with faith-shaking issues.

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dartagnan wrote:Shaken Faith Syndrome is a creative way of explaining the obvious in faith-promoting terms. They should call it what it really is: "Confronting uncomfortable truths for the first time."


Or perhaps When the Facts Don't Add Up.
“I was hooked from the start,” Snoop Dogg said. “We talked about the purpose of life, played Mousetrap, and ate brownies. The kids thought it was off the hook, for real.”
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