Sam Harris wrote:LMAO! Ok, I can relate to the painkillers. Sucks being on percocet for over a year. But I've reduced my need to "head exploding" times only. I'm sick of being a professional invalid, and I don't know what I'm going to do come third trimester...not safe to take.
Anyways...so this is supposed to be kind of like that "God won't give you any more than you can handle" line? He'll let you walk the tightrope on your own until he can see you're about to fall, then catch you?
I've never been fond of that line of reasoning...what about the damage to my heart that comes from proverbial tightrope walking?
God could have helped me when I was driving in DC yesterday...divine inspiration would have been really nice. I have panic attacks every time I try to get into or out of that city. The wheels of my car will never hit those streets again. METRO! All I got was yelled at by a parking enforcement asswipe and ticketed by him out of retaliation when I threatened to report him. I'm too tired to write my angry letter to Eleonore Holmes Norton right now...but God could have somehow given me enough change to make that eight minutes, or smitten the fat bastard who decided to follow me...
Where's the love?
Well, I think eventually you develop faith enough that you don't have to be so afraid....or so I'm told. I'm on Vicodin until this kidney stone passes. I just want to give birth to this bastard child so I can move on.
Can I have your extra Vicodin?
And crawling on the planet's face Some insects called the human race Lost in time And lost in space...and meaning
karl61 wrote:in general, if one is brought up in the church, one will be taught that you fast and pray and God will reveal things to you - the truthfulness of something through good or peaceful feelings but if it is not right that you will feel troubled or even forget what you were aksing for.
I believe the Moroni's promise paradigm is nothing more than a dumb-down strategy. In other words, as one is confronted with a situation, or a bit of information that creates confusion (stupor), the TBM tends to immediately dismiss it as false and justifies the dismissal as "inspiration." The problem is that in order to learn something, we must have the confusion at first, as it is something that is new and unknown, then when using reason and logic, the new information is assimilated and a new understanding is established.
I think most of us Mormon graduates have experienced this process of discomfort when given new details of doctrinal/historical conflict, and have pushed through the "pain" to eventually see the truth.
Überzeugungen sind oft die gefährlichsten Feinde der Wahrheit.
[Certainty (that one is correct) is often the most dangerous enemy of the
truth.] - Friedrich Nietzsche
Sam Harris wrote:LMAO! Ok, I can relate to the painkillers. Sucks being on percocet for over a year. But I've reduced my need to "head exploding" times only. I'm sick of being a professional invalid, and I don't know what I'm going to do come third trimester...not safe to take.
Anyways...so this is supposed to be kind of like that "God won't give you any more than you can handle" line? He'll let you walk the tightrope on your own until he can see you're about to fall, then catch you?
I've never been fond of that line of reasoning...what about the damage to my heart that comes from proverbial tightrope walking?
God could have helped me when I was driving in DC yesterday...divine inspiration would have been really nice. I have panic attacks every time I try to get into or out of that city. The wheels of my car will never hit those streets again. METRO! All I got was yelled at by a parking enforcement asswipe and ticketed by him out of retaliation when I threatened to report him. I'm too tired to write my angry letter to Eleonore Holmes Norton right now...but God could have somehow given me enough change to make that eight minutes, or smitten the fat bastard who decided to follow me...
Where's the love?
Well, I think eventually you develop faith enough that you don't have to be so afraid....or so I'm told. I'm on Vicodin until this kidney stone passes. I just want to give birth to this bastard child so I can move on.
Can I have your extra Vicodin?
No, I need a stash in case I get another one.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
in general, if one is brought up in the church, one will be taught that you fast and pray and God will reveal things to you
Tis true, that's taught. However, general observation would tend to indicate, "not very much fasting is taking place." Roger ;-)
Too funny: I always thought that to be a bishop you should have a 36 inch of less waist - may be a weight requirement based on your height. I like to hold and kiss woman but there is a sexy form of art which is an older man who is slim and in shape.
Roger Morrison wrote:Tis true, that's taught. However, general observation would tend to indicate, "not very much fasting is taking place." Roger ;-)
We need a little less blessing brownies and punch to be good for us and a little dust blown off the old teaching that gluttony is a sin. If you can't run to your mailbox without getting weary or walk from your couch to the fridge without feeling faint there also might be a need for a quick Word of Wisdom review.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
Roger Morrison wrote:Tis true, that's taught. However, general observation would tend to indicate, "not very much fasting is taking place." Roger ;-)
We need a little less blessing brownies and punch to be good for us and a little dust blown off the old teaching that gluttony is a sin. If you can't run to your mailbox without getting weary or walk from your couch to the fridge without feeling faint there also might be a need for a quick Word of Wisdom review.
Too true. And, while dusting off "THE Word OF Wisdom," how about ditto, "the perils of wealth-building/seeking-after riches?" WOW, just imagine a congregation of physically-fit, spiritually tuned to resist materialism... 'Twould hardly be recognized as LDS ;-)
Style-guy wrote:
sexy ... older man who is slim and in shape.
LOL! Tis me!! 31 inch waist, 5 minutes of stomach muscle exercise before getting up, and 10 pull-ups every morning on one of those door-jamb mounted bars on the way into my bathroom... But "sexy"? After the rigors of 75 years, no hair, false-teeth, hearing/visual impairments, retention deficite disorder--getting worse...Nah, only in sweet memmmories... But hey, Life couldn't be better! :-) Roger
Roger Morrison wrote:Tis true, that's taught. However, general observation would tend to indicate, "not very much fasting is taking place." Roger ;-)
We need a little less blessing brownies and punch to be good for us and a little dust blown off the old teaching that gluttony is a sin. If you can't run to your mailbox without getting weary or walk from your couch to the fridge without feeling faint there also might be a need for a quick Word of Wisdom review.
Too true. And, while dusting off "THE Word OF Wisdom," how about ditto, "the perils of wealth-building/seeking-after riches?" WOW, just imagine a congregation of physically-fit, spiritually tuned to resist materialism... 'Twould hardly be recognized as LDS ;-)
Style-guy wrote:
sexy ... older man who is slim and in shape.
LOL! Tis me!! 31 inch waist, 5 minutes of stomach muscle exercise before getting up, and 10 pull-ups every morning on one of those door-jamb mounted bars on the way into my bathroom... But "sexy"? After the rigors of 75 years, no hair, false-teeth, hearing/visual impairments, retention deficite disorder--getting worse...Nah, only in sweet memmmories... But hey, Life couldn't be better! :-) Roger