What is the Mopologetic "skinny-l" Listserve?

[_Daniel Peterson]

I think it's unethical to engage in an email correspondence with someone with the intent to distribute the exchanges to another group without informing the person of your intent beforehand.

As a general principle, I don't -- though I would in certain cases and under certain circumstances.

[_Mister Scratch]

Ha ha ha. Real funny. You and your Skinny List friends have private email correspondence splashed all over the pages of SHIELDS. Can you really say that you feel good about doing something such as that?

I have never posted a private exchange, and would not do so.

I had my exchange with SuzyQ posted only after she had grossly mischaracterized our interaction for roughly a year in a public place where I could not respond. Now the truth is out there and people can make up their own minds.

And yes, I feel entirely good about that.

It's not just SuzyQ. It's also that pair of anti-Mormon "brothers" (or whatever they were---they had the same last name), and James White, and Infymus. It hasn't been an isolated incident, as you well know. There are at least half a dozen instances of you doing this posted on G. Novak's "Best of the Anti-Mormon Web." It is something you used to do *habitually*, it seems. I'll grant that you seemed to have mellowed in recent years, but you were definitely engaging in a lot of unethical posting of people's private emails to you. Often, it seemed that you would provoke these people into anger only to humiliate them in front of your "skinny-l" pals.

Meanwhile: Are Stan Barker and Chuck Peterson on the list? Y/N?

I've never even heard of a "Chuck Peterson."

Did I misspell the last name? Anyways, he plays some sort of role with SHIELDS, and he is an associate of Barker's. Now, back to the question: Is Barker on the list? Y/N? Is John Tvedtness?

You are trying to keep a secret.

Not at all. I'd happily give every name I know on the list to anybody who isn't one of your cronies or research assistants and/or doesn't participate on this list. Gather your own data.

C'mon, Prof. P.---what are you hiding? Are you embarrassed about what you guys have been doing on the skinny list?

[_Mike Reed]

Is there some other email group behind the MAD scenes? I recall it being mentioned previously, but my impression was that it is a larger group including people such as Juliann.

FAIR had a message board and a private email list. The message board was eventually handed over and became MADb, and is now run somewhat independently from FAIR. I say "somewhat" because a few members of the FAIR list (like Juliann) run and moderate it. So I guess you can say that there is an email group behind the MAD scenes, but the relationship between the two is unofficial and independent.

[_Daniel Peterson]

It's not just SuzyQ. It's also that pair of anti-Mormon "brothers" (or whatever they were---they had the same last name), and James White, and Infymus. It hasn't been an isolated incident, as you well know. There are at least half a dozen instances of you doing this posted on G. Novak's "Best of the Anti-Mormon Web." It is something you used to do *habitually*, it seems. I'll grant that you seemed to have mellowed in recent years, but you were definitely engaging in a lot of unethical posting of people's private emails to you.

I see nothing unethical in posting exchanges that involve no private or confidential information.

Often, it seemed that you would provoke these people into anger only to humiliate them in front of your "skinny-l" pals.

Well, I didn't.

Did I misspell the last name? Anyways, he plays some sort of role with SHIELDS, and he is an associate of Barker's.

I'm unaware of him, under any spelling.

Now, back to the question: Is Barker on the list? Y/N? Is John Tvedtness?

Happy sleuthing!

C'mon, Prof. P.---what are you hiding?

Nothing.

Are you embarrassed about what you guys have been doing on the skinny list?

No.

[_Mister Scratch]

It's not just SuzyQ. It's also that pair of anti-Mormon "brothers" (or whatever they were---they had the same last name), and James White, and Infymus. It hasn't been an isolated incident, as you well know. There are at least half a dozen instances of you doing this posted on G. Novak's "Best of the Anti-Mormon Web." It is something you used to do *habitually*, it seems. I'll grant that you seemed to have mellowed in recent years, but you were definitely engaging in a lot of unethical posting of people's private emails to you.

I see nothing unethical in posting exchanges that involve no private or confidential information.

Often, it seemed that you would provoke these people into anger only to humiliate them in front of your "skinny-l" pals.

Well, I didn't.

Then why did you send unsolicited emails to these people? What was your purpose in confronting them?

Now, back to the question: Is Barker on the list? Y/N? Is John Tvedtness?

Happy sleuthing!

C'mon, Prof. P.---what are you hiding?

Nothing.

Are you embarrassed about what you guys have been doing on the skinny list?

No.

C'mon, Prof. P.---what are you hiding? Just tell us who's on the list. There can't be any harm in it. Can there?

[_Daniel Peterson]

Then why did you send unsolicited emails to these people? What was your purpose in confronting them?

Most of these people (e.g., SuzyQ and the two brothers) wrote to me first. Infymus posted things about me on his website.

I didn't choose them out of the blue, as you want to believe.

[_Mister Scratch]

Then why did you send unsolicited emails to these people? What was your purpose in confronting them?

Most of these people (e.g., SuzyQ and the two brothers) wrote to me first. Infymus posted things about me on his website.

I didn't choose them out of the blue, as you want to believe.

No, no. In other cases it is quite clear that you were trolling the web, looking for "easy marks".

[_TrashcanMan79]

You know, Dan, I understand my morbid fascination with the goings on here in The Great and Spacious Trailer Park. I more or less grew up on the wrong side of the tracks and so I have a soft spot in my heart for snotty-nosed, shabby bastard children like Mr. Scratch and his cohorts here in the Circle Jerk Suite.

What's your excuse?

;-)

I've held out for as long as I could, but I have to say it: I am now officially a fan of Will Schryver! It is refreshing to find someone still in the Church with whom I have so much in common. In fact, if there were more members like Will, I might consider the Church something worth returning to.

Will, ol buddy, I just know you'll dig the new song I put up on MySpace: "Mouth of Teeth and Lies (I Want to F**k Your Sister)". If I know you like I think I do, I imagine you'll enjoy listening to this as much as I enjoyed singing it.

Give er a listen, bro, and tell me what you think!

[Warning: That link is for Will only. I'm afraid it might offend most everyone else, prudes that you are.]

;-D

[_Mister Scratch]

So far we have:

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5. Pahoran

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For those of us following along, Pahoran is actually Russell C. McGregor, right?

I seem to recall this being the case, but my memory has failed me before....

Yes, that's correct, TrashcanMan. And this is deeply ironic, of course. Pahoran went ballistic when I listed his name on my blog, claiming that he did not want to be inundated with emails from the various people he has pissed off over the years. Well, lo and behold! it turns out that he belongs to a listserve whose purpose, at least in part, is to inundate LDS critics with annoying emails!

[The Stig]

You know, Dan, I understand my morbid fascination with the goings on here in The Great and Spacious Trailer Park. I more or less grew up on the wrong side of the tracks and so I have a soft spot in my heart for snotty-nosed, shabby bastard children like Mr. Scratch and his cohorts here in the Circle Jerk Suite.

What's your excuse?

;-)

Yes, Dan, unfortunately, this really is indicative of the quality of the company your apologetic worldview inspires. Weep for it, I beg you, in the name of decency.

Nice, huh?

This is akin to the forced laughter of scientologists on talk show programs: "HA-HA-HA!!! Critics are poor and live in trailer parks! HA-HA-HA!!! Critics masturbate together and spill their semen on each other! HA-HA-HA!!! Critics are homosexuals! HA-HA-HA!!! Critics are really nasty homosexual people. HA-HA-HA!!! They do nasty stuff! HA-HA-HA!!!They like to get together and masturbate! HA-HA-HA!!!"

Yes, this is right up there with SHIELDS in terms of scholarly interchange.

Can we get Schryver's homosexual masturbatory fantasies involving trailer-park dwelling critics archived on SHIELDS? Surely his contributions to LDS apologia merit archiving, right?

I mean, Schryver is the best shield that Hauglid can manufacture.

And, really, isn't it about time that we start officially equating LDS critics, a la Schryver, with those nasty "faggots?"

I mean, that was his point, right? "Faggots" are nasty. Critics are nasty. Critics are "Faggots."

(I mean utterly no offense to any or all of my homosexual readers, here. I think Will's comments are extremely demeaning to both LDS critics and male homosexual persons.)

As he trembles in a faux orgasm of moral outrage . . .

My Dear Antagonist,

I am but a journalist as it pertains to these particular observations. I write what I see: A group of men (and several women), figuratively in a circle, mocking God and their former brethren as they wantonly spill the seed of their intellect in alternating paroxysms of vanity and nihilistic resignation.

Behold the wisdom of taking matters into your own hands.
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Edit: I mean utterly no offense to any or all of my homosexual readers here in The Great and Spacious Trailer Park ™. I work hard to make my comments extremely demeaning to LDS critics, but I have no particular interest in male homosexual persons.