Missionary Journal & Depression

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Even though I’ve never suffered from a chemical-induced depression (I had a severe circumstantial depression on my mission triggered by knocking on doors eight/ten hours a day only to have the door rudely slammed in our faces, and then face chastisement and criticism from leaders for lack of success)


I had a fairly easy mission compared to that, and I still found it very upsetting. No matter what company you're working for, WalMart etc., the leaders are always going to pressure you for more. I guess going through what you're mentioning and watching the philosophy of the Church leaders just not add up is what got me questioning in the first place. I think I understand exactly what you're talking about Beastie. We don't agree on everything but I think you're right on target with this one. I was so sick and depressed by the time I finished my mission. I wanted to run as far from the Church as I could when I got home. I wonder if other missionaries secretly felt this way. Otherwise they wouldn't be giving these talks on "saving the missionaries." I don't think my feelings were all that odd. I just think other people would like to believe they were.

Our area leader would always say, "If we were a business we'd expect a lot more success than we get out of you." Or the favorite, "If you're not baptizing, you must have done this, this, and this?" Hearing these statements made me doubt the Church more than any antiMormon literature. I got see what the leadership was really all about, what they really believed, and what tally system they were really using.

In addition to this, our society, in general, has little patience for negative emotions – even in completely understandable situations (like death of a loved one). Yeah, we understand that people are going to feel badly at times, but we want it to be short and preferably hidden. If it lasts “too long”, society becomes impatient and uninterested. Time to move on. Cheer up! Pull yourself up by your bootstraps!! Buck up!! Geez, as if anyone suffering the particular hell of depression wouldn’t pull themselves up by their bootstraps if it were possible at all. Society seems to think people “wallow” in depression because they want to for some reason – likely the attention Bond mentioned. People who think that obviously do not understand how severe this state can be. It would be like suggesting that someone purposefully got cancer in order to win the sympathy vote….


Yeah it's amazing how much more sympathy I got at work when I lost my voice. People understand and empathize with a bacterial infection quite well, but only if it clears up within a day and you're back to work. Being sick is simply not permitted in our current work force. Our world is not as far from the animals as we like to think. It works out better for other people to blame others state on attitude and poor choices. It's how they overcome the feeling to help this person out when they believe helping them out would mean making a sacrifice or simply not driving them as hard when they work for you. Every day is a fight for survival. Once I realized this I started functioning better. I was still depressed, and I don't think I'd have every been able to graduate college or do what I'm doing now without Zoloft. I can't imagine what my ancestors went through. All they had was alcohol.

I think I induced part of my depression with my obsession about some issues, but there comes a point when you can't make it go away even if you try to. I think I just overloaded my brain so bad with emotional turmoil that set a screw loose. At this point, nothing you do or think will stop you from feeling depressed. A lot of people don't understand what it means to be locked into depression. They think you can still choose not to feel it. It takes a long time for your brain to heal, or the person just gets used to it and learns to adapt.
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beastie wrote:In addition to this, our society, in general, has little patience for negative emotions – even in completely understandable situations (like death of a loved one). Yeah, we understand that people are going to feel badly at times, but we want it to be short and preferably hidden. If it lasts “too long”, society becomes impatient and uninterested. Time to move on. Cheer up! Pull yourself up by your bootstraps!! Buck up!! Geez, as if anyone suffering the particular hell of depression wouldn’t pull themselves up by their bootstraps if it were possible at all. Society seems to think people “wallow” in depression because they want to for some reason – likely the attention Bond mentioned. People who think that obviously do not understand how severe this state can be. It would be like suggesting that someone purposefully got cancer in order to win the sympathy vote….


Yeah. Actually at my worst moments I wondered if I was wallowing. That's why I said internal stigma is worst. I mean if I don't even believe I'm truly ill how can I trust anyone else to believe me? That's what is so isolating, is your own self doubt. It's self doubt so severe that you doubt your ability to doubt yourself. You look inward and think, "is this me? Are these emotions real? This can't be me can it? I'm not this sad creature weeping in a dark room, shades drawn, covered in quilts to fight off the chills and the shakes, am I? Why am I doing this? Is this me?" It's a bizarre state to be in.

But I think I've said all I want to say on the issue for a while with these last few posts.
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Jersey Girl wrote:Bond,

First of all I still think you should save all your writing on something else besides a blog


Like wha?

I must say that one of the things that helped me most of all was just as you stated above: drawing positive energy from others. I remember visiting a neighbor and how important it was to observe the "normalcy" of daily life, when I had lost so much of my own.


Striving for normalcy [however a depressed person may define it] was and is very helpful for me. People would say my current life is fairly boring, but I like it that way. After so many years [4] of emotional rollercoastering, I yearn for the mundane. It feels, well. Better. Safe. I mean I really stripped down to bedrock and have been rebuilding my life [or perhaps building a life for the first time] with boring stuff. Safe and boring is secure and sturdy. Something you can depend on and anchor yourself to. It's not some false facade that will crumble if pushed a bit. Normal and boring are, well a bit more solid than outlandish and dramatic behavior.
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Bond - thank you for sharing your experience and thoughts. I know it can be painful to revisit.

Ajax - I know that some missionaries seem to have very positive experiences, but I believe that the majority of missionaries in my mission were probably suffering from circumstantial depression, like I was. It's not something we could easily admit to one another, but you could still tell. And we all counted down the days till we went home like it was a prison sentence. I suspect a lot depends on where you serve.
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Alright, one more entry. This one is specifically about some of the pros and cons religion can have on human nature and how it might lead to depression. Did I mention that I never feel that I can complete my thoughts on this issue?

http://zackc.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/d ... -religion/
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Good summary, Bond. The jury's out for me, too, in regards to the impact of religion on depression (and overall human behavior). Perhaps it depends on what kind of depression the individual is experiencing. Circumstantial depressions that haven't deeply altered patterns of thinking and neuron linkage could likely be alleviated by the comfort that religion brings. Depressions that are the result of chemical imbalances in the brain aren't going to respond to external promptings alone, which leads to the risk of even more negative spiraling due to the inability to respond to those same "God-given" prompts.
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beastie wrote:Good summary, Bond. The jury's out for me, too, in regards to the impact of religion on depression (and overall human behavior). Perhaps it depends on what kind of depression the individual is experiencing. Circumstantial depressions that haven't deeply altered patterns of thinking and neuron linkage could likely be alleviated by the comfort that religion brings. Depressions that are the result of chemical imbalances in the brain aren't going to respond to external promptings alone, which leads to the risk of even more negative spiraling due to the inability to respond to those same "God-given" prompts.


Totally. As I said [in the article few probably read :P] I think that depression is usually based on a lot of little things which when baked at the right temperature make a bad combination. Sort of like how you can make bombs out of everyday chemicals laying around the house if you mix them in the right porportions. The chemicals might be useful and even positive in and of themselves [like religion or a job or family or whatever] but if mixed with a life setbacks can be a volatile mixture.
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
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