What happened to LDS apologist Doug Marshall?

[_bcspace]

I know those who's membership is not in question, but that's not the point. I don't know any believing LDS at all who are liberal democrats. The two are mutually incompatible.

You must run in little narrow minded circles then.

I'm quite certain that I am more broad minded than any antiMormon here. Just because I have considered and don't accept antiMormon philosophy doesn't mean I am narrow minded. I have simply compared the platform and modus operandi of the democratic party to LDS doctrine and found them wanting.

My prior SP and current one are the two of the finest Christians I know.

I have no doubt you percieve them to be that way. But it is one thing to be merely Christian and quite another to part of the body of Christ. It is also one thing to have false compassion and another to actually be a Christian.

And what about our very own Robert Crockett. He is a liberal as well.

I don't know this RC, but being a political liberal automatically disqualifies him from being a believing LDS. Especially as it relates to the application of doctrine to social policy.

Anyway, while I am politically conservative members like you who equate being LDS in good standing to being politically conservatives make me puke. You are small minded and rather bigoted in my view.

I don't think I made that comparison. I simply said that being left wing was incompatible. However, I do appreciate your black and white thinking that if one is not a liberal, one must be a conservative.

So I assume you would have told President Faust and Marlin Jensen they are traitors to God, the LDS Church and to their country? What an idiot.

If they are still now, I would not hesitate to say it to their face. Perhaps not that strongly at first, but I would certainly point out how they are in conflict with LDS doctrine to start.

[_karl61]

The fact of the matter is that left-wing politics is completely incompatible with LDS doctrine so this is not suprising.

Yeah, like that pesky little thing called "free agency".

One can't have socialism without the removal of agency. Steeping oneself in sin often causes one to lose their agency as well as they become enslaved and can't get out.

did anyone tell Brigham Young that? or first century Christians.

[_Sethbag]

And what about our very own Robert Crockett. He is a liberal as well.

I don't know this RC, but being a political liberal automatically disqualifies him from being a believing LDS. Especially as it relates to the application of doctrine to social policy.

ROFL. You can make up your own version of Adam and Eve, and invent new meanings to words in order to reconcile evolution and LDS scripture in ways never imagined by the Lord's Annointed, Prophets, Seers, and Revelators all, but Bob Crockett is automatically disqualified from being a believing LDS because he's a liberal?

It's not too late, BC. Or, at least, I hope it's not. You can overcome the mindf*ck that Mormonism has pulled on you. At least, you could, if you weren't now determined to keep pulling it on yourself. You are, at least in theory, too smart for this crap. But the mind virus puts those smarts to work inventing ways to justify and defend it, just like a physical virus co-opts the constructive machinery of the host cell to build new copies of the virus.

[_bcspace]

One can't have socialism without the removal of agency. Steeping oneself in sin often causes one to lose their agency as well as they become enslaved and can't get out.

did anyone tell Brigham Young that? or first century Christians.

Socialism and Consecration are not the same.

ROFL. You can make up your own version of Adam and Eve, and invent new meanings to words in order to reconcile evolution and LDS scripture in ways never imagined by the Lord's Annointed, Prophets, Seers, and Revelators all

Any LDS may fill in the blanks as they wish.

but Bob Crockett is automatically disqualified from being a believing LDS because he's a liberal?

Yes. Instead of filling in the blanks, political liberalism is contrary to LDS doctrine. The more one believes contrary to LDS doctrine, the less an LDS believer one is don't you think?

[_sunstoned]

Bcspace has to be pulling everyone’s chain. I can’t believe anyone could really be that screwed up. There are plenty of good Christian liberals in the LDS church. I personally know several.

[_bcspace]

Bcspace has to be pulling everyone’s chain. I can’t believe anyone could really be that screwed up. There are plenty of good Christian liberals in the LDS church. I personally know several.

There are many people "in the Church" but who don't really believe. This board is a case in point. A political liberal is just another variety of antiMormon and yes, they exist within the Church.

[_Gazelam]

But until that happens, I expect Mormons to be pretty hateful and bigoted, just as many were against black men and women for a hundred years.

So this Doug moron wants to equate homosexuals with the Negro race, as if they were a race unto themselves? So I have to ask, are Plushies to be considered a race as well?

[_Dr. Shades]

There are many people "in the Church" but who don't really believe. This board is a case in point. A political liberal is just another variety of antiMormon and yes, they exist within the Church.

Should Harry Reid be excommunicated? If so, then why hasn't it happened yet? If not, then what do you have to say for your above paragraph?

[_Trevor]

The fact of the matter is that left-wing politics is completely incompatible with LDS doctrine so this is not suprising.

Well, Hugh Nibley obviously did not agree, and, whatever his faults, I'll trust his take on it. All you are showing here is how completely right-wing ideology has hijacked the LDS Church.

[_Trevor]

I know those who's membership is not in question, but that's not the point. I don't know any believing LDS at all who are liberal democrats. The two are mutually incompatible.

Your deplorable concept of what constitutes evidence speaks volumes about your lack of credibility.