You need to be a Right-Wing Conservative to be a Mormon?

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bcspace wrote:
So, Bob, I'm curious. Staunch Democrat that you are, do you agree with BC's position? And if so, are you going to change your party affiliation? ;)


A better question might be, does he agree with LDS doctrine? If he does, he's not a good democrat.


This seems like a circular argument and it is based on political rather than religious beliefs.
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A better question might be, does he agree with LDS doctrine? If he does, he's not a good democrat.

This seems like a circular argument and it is based on political rather than religious beliefs.


No. It's a comparison between beliefs and actions. Actions reveal belief.
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antishock8 wrote:Color me, once again, shocked, that a Mormon is pathological when it comes to lying. Shocked I tells ya.

Back to the point, early Christians were communalists. Jesus was a Leftist.


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And feminists too


Considering his counsel on marriage and divorce, he's certainly nothing like a second or third wave feminist. First wave feminism is a conservative value.

I've never seen any teaching of Jesus to indicate that he would be at home with left-wing ideology.
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bcspace wrote:
And feminists too


Considering his counsel on marriage and divorce, he's certainly nothing like a second or third wave feminist. First wave feminism is a conservative value.

I've never seen any teaching of Jesus to indicate that he would be at home with left-wing ideology.


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I've never seen any teaching of Jesus to indicate that he would be at home with left-wing ideology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Consecration


This is not left-wing as it is voluntary. Jesus himself volunteered to execute a plan that involved agency, something alien to the political left.
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bcspace wrote:
A better question might be, does he agree with LDS doctrine? If he does, he's not a good democrat.

This seems like a circular argument and it is based on political rather than religious beliefs.


No. It's a comparison between beliefs and actions. Actions reveal belief.


Okay, here is this for action:

Democrats pass legislation to keep people from starving - Republicans oppose it.

Democrats propose legislation to to provide heath care for all- Republicans oppose it.

Democrats pass legislation to provide health care for the aged and sick - Republicans oppose it.

Democrats pass legislation to reduce the working week from 60+ to 40 hours - Republicans oppose it.

Democrats pass legislation to let workers have collective bargaining - Republicans oppose it.

Democrats pass legislation to insure that our food is clean through inspection - Republicans oppose it.

Democrats pass legislation to help clean up air polution - Republicans oppose it.

Democrats pass legislation to provide for a reasonable minimum wage - Republicans oppose it.

Democrats pass legislation to accord civil rights to all regardless of race or religion - Republicans oppose it.
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[As per Skippy's request, I moved this back to the Terrestrial and split off the off-topic name calling.]
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bcspace wrote:
I've never seen any teaching of Jesus to indicate that he would be at home with left-wing ideology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Consecration


This is not left-wing as it is voluntary. Jesus himself volunteered to execute a plan that involved agency, something alien to the political left.


You clearly don't understand social democracy. I would recommend a crash course in Google, and a review of the New Testament. Good luck.
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No. It's a comparison between beliefs and actions. Actions reveal belief.

Okay, here is this for action:


You'll need to provide reference so we can see what the supposed legislation actually was about. Some of them sound quite socialist. Having individuals control and choose where their money is not in conflict with LDS teaching. Social programs that take away agency and personal responsibility are.
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