Temple work on behalf of deceased Muslims?

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_christopher
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capt jack wrote:
Due to the law of averages, I'm also sure that one or more deceased Muslims has had their temple ordinances done already

You mean like this guy?

Prophet of Islam MUHAMMAD The Prophet Compact Disc #8 Pin #758716 Pedigree
Sex: M

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Event(s)
Birth: 25 Mar 0570


Death: 8 Jun 0632

Medina

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Parents
Father: Abd Allah ben `Abd AL-MUTTALIB Disc #8 Pin #758785
Mother: Amina bint WAHB Disc #8 Pin #758786

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: KHADIJAH Disc #8 Pin #758717
Marriage:



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Notes and Sources
Notes: None
Sources: None

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Submitter
Tampa Way , Shreveport, La., United States of America 71105


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Submission Search: 674442-121699143331
URL:
CD-ROM: Pedigree Resource File - Compact Disc #8
CD-ROM Features: Pedigree View, Family View, Individual View, Reports, Downloadable GEDCOM files, Notes and Sources.
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Looks like someone else submitted him as well:

Prophet Muhammad , Founder of Islam Compact Disc #122 Pin #834235 Pedigree
Sex: M

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Event(s)
Birth: 20 Apr 0571

MECCA
Death: 8 Jun 0632

MEDINA

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Parents
Father: 'Abd Allah ibn 'Abd al-Muttalib Disc #122 Pin #834236
Mother: Amina bint Wahb Disc #122 Pin #834557

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: ???? Khadijah Disc #122 Pin #834532
Marriage:



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Notes and Sources
Notes: Available on CD-ROM Disc# 122
Sources: None

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Submitter
Block 122, Muskogee, Oklahoma, 74401, United States of America


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Submission Search: 3227784-0806105173518
CD-ROM: Pedigree Resource File - Compact Disc #122
CD-ROM Features: Pedigree View, Family View, Individual View, Reports, Downloadable GEDCOM files, Notes and Sources.
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I just noticed that these records are not being submitted by one isolated nutty Mormon, but are coming from all over the place.....OK, LA, Chile....
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antishock8 wrote:
Regardless, Muslims need to be challenged. They have a sense of entitlement for respect that is undeserved. Muhammed should be rightly designated a pedophile, murderer, polygamist, and bigot to go along with conqueror, statesman, and leader. No one should fear for his life when discussing the irrationality of Islam, Christianity, Mormonism, or any ideology for that matter.


I couldn't agree more. In fact, I'd go further and say that all religious dogmatists need to be challenged. Anyone who uses religious belief as a basis to enact or impose policies/laws on others need to be challenged. We need to get rid f the privileged status we grant religious beliefs. If history shows us anything, it is that religious beliefs have consequences that affects millions upon millions of persons.

If believers want to put their beliefs in the public forum, they have no rights to expect/demand 'respect' for those beliefs. Respect is earned by the quality of the beliefs and is not granted automatically.

Human society needs far more criticism of religious belief, not less.
God . . . "who mouths morals to other people and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, . . . and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites this poor, abused slave to worship him ..."
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guy sajer wrote:
antishock8 wrote:
Regardless, Muslims need to be challenged. They have a sense of entitlement for respect that is undeserved. Muhammed should be rightly designated a pedophile, murderer, polygamist, and bigot to go along with conqueror, statesman, and leader. No one should fear for his life when discussing the irrationality of Islam, Christianity, Mormonism, or any ideology for that matter.


I couldn't agree more. In fact, I'd go further and say that all religious dogmatists need to be challenged. Anyone who uses religious belief as a basis to enact or impose policies/laws on others need to be challenged. We need to get rid f the privileged status we grant religious beliefs. If history shows us anything, it is that religious beliefs have consequences that affects millions upon millions of persons.

If believers want to put their beliefs in the public forum, they have no rights to expect/demand 'respect' for those beliefs. Respect is earned by the quality of the beliefs and is not granted automatically.

Human society needs far more criticism of religious belief, not less.


QFT
_christopher
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Post by _christopher »

christopher wrote:
Daniel Peterson wrote: This is an interesting topic. I know a lot about it. A lot.

If civil, substantive, non-demonizing discussion had been possible on this message board, I would have been happy to discuss this topic.


Daniel Peterson wrote:In whatever games you folks ultimately decide to play with this new toy, I hope you'll remember that you could quite conceivably get some people killed.


Wonderful..... you know a lot about it, but won't discuss it, but will tell us that conceivably some people could get killed. I don't believe you. I (like many Jews) find the practice of proxy baptism grossly insensitive and feel like telling those who may not know about it the potential status of some of their religious leaders (again, maybe just names submitted and no work done, I don't know). Do you think they won't find out somehow?

Here's your chance to stop me. Tell us what "a lot" you know so that I won't. I've got to tell you though, that I find it bizarre (to use a phrase punctuated through many of your online writings) that you find culpability in me or other message board slouches and not the church.

Chris <><


Dan-

Interested yet in telling me this "a lot" that you know so that I would know why I shouldn't take what I have gathered so far and send it to C.A.I.R for their input or thoughts?
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