You need to be a Right-Wing Conservative to be a Mormon?

[_bcspace]

You clearly don't understand social democracy. I would recommend a crash course in Google, and a review of the New Testament. Good luck.

I understand social democracy quite well. It's the path to Socialism. IN the law of consecration, I can leave anytime I choose. Under say, universal health care, what choice do I have?

[_moksha]

Under say, universal health care, what choice do I have?

The choice to receive medical care. A choice that a growing number of people do not have all all. Being niggardly with health care and the
basic necessities of life is certainly not Christian and by osmotic extension, I would maintain it is certainly not Mormon as well.

[_Canucklehead]

You clearly don't understand social democracy. I would recommend a crash course in Google, and a review of the New Testament. Good luck.

I understand social democracy quite well. It's the path to Socialism. IN the law of consecration, I can leave anytime I choose. Under say, universal health care, what choice do I have?

I want to opt out of the requirement to fund national defence programs. I can't. Can I therefore conclude that national defence is the path to socialism?

[_ludwigm]

You clearly don't understand social democracy. I would recommend a crash course in Google, and a review of the New Testament. Good luck.

I understand social democracy quite well. It's the path to Socialism. IN the law of consecration, I can leave anytime I choose. Under say, universal health care, what choice do I have?

You can leave anytime You choose then wait the consequences:

1 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,
2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles’ feet.
3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.

[_bcspace]

Under say, universal health care, what choice do I have?

The choice to receive medical care. A choice that a growing number of people do not have all all. Being niggardly with health care and the
basic necessities of life is certainly not Christian and by osmotic extension, I would maintain it is certainly not Mormon as well.

I would mantain that all have such a choice now though it is being erroded by the shift to more regulation in the drift towards universal care. For example, due to mandated coverages, premiums are higher. Another example, due to socialized systems around the world, the US citizen bears more and more of the brunt for the cost of drug research.

[_bcspace]

You can leave anytime You choose then wait the consequences:

They didn't choose to leave. They gave only part of the promised price and represented it as the full price.

[_ludwigm]

You can leave anytime You choose then wait the consequences:

They didn't choose to leave. They gave only part of the promised price and represented it as the full price.

So they were worth to dye. Should they leave instead with the whole sum?





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[_bcspace]

So they were worth to dye. Should they leave instead with the whole sum?

The fact that the paid anything at all shows they wanted to be a part of the system. The fact that they withheld some of the money shows they wanted to bilk it.

[_moksha]

Another example, due to socialized systems around the world, the US citizen bears more and more of the brunt for the cost of drug research.

You mean they contribute more profit to the Pharmecutical Corporation's coffers, while the patients of the socialized sytems are insulated from this price gouging.

[_dblagent007]

A better question might be, does he agree with LDS doctrine? If he does, he's not a good democrat.

This seems like a circular argument and it is based on political rather than religious beliefs.

No. It's a comparison between beliefs and actions. Actions reveal belief.

Okay, here is this for action:

Democrats pass legislation to keep people from starving - Republicans oppose it.

Democrats propose legislation to to provide heath care for all- Republicans oppose it.

Democrats pass legislation to provide health care for the aged and sick - Republicans oppose it.

Democrats pass legislation to reduce the working week from 60+ to 40 hours - Republicans oppose it.

Democrats pass legislation to let workers have collective bargaining - Republicans oppose it.

Democrats pass legislation to insure that our food is clean through inspection - Republicans oppose it.

Democrats pass legislation to help clean up air polution - Republicans oppose it.

Democrats pass legislation to provide for a reasonable minimum wage - Republicans oppose it.

Democrats pass legislation to accord civil rights to all regardless of race or religion - Republicans oppose it.

Government control of just about anything leads to increased waste, lower quality service, and, ultimately, lower standard of living for the people. Government control taken to the extreme produces North Korea, USSR, Cuba, etc. Baby steps in that direction produce lower quality of life like in Europe.

Lack of government control frees the people to make their own choices, which means that people get very creative at solving problems, making things cheaper (read: so more people can consume them), etc. That is why countries that are freerer have a much higher standard of living. Good grief, do you want your healthcare run like the DMV????

Conservatives oppose all of these things because they will reduce our standard of living either through waste or corruption. If the people have a choice (read: government gets out of the way), then we tend to make better decisions, waste less, and overall do what we can to improve our own lives. There is a role for government, but it should be much smaller than it is now.

By the way, you might want to check your history and see who the biggest opponents of the civil rights legislation of the 50s-70s were (answer: southern democrats).