John Tvedtnes: Foul-mouthed Hatchet Man?

[_Mister Scratch]

"The upshot of all which is, that, if I mistake not," said Tom, sturdily, "you are he commonly called Old Scratch."
"The same at your service!" replied the black man, with a half civil nod

Washington Irving, The Devil And Tom Walker

Just curious, my friend, given the fact that your name specifically reflects a tradition that identifies Satan as a black man, are we to understand that you are a racist?

Peace and joy.

Lol. Which tradition, Dave-o? Mormonism?

Honestly, why are you so upset about this revelation that J. Tvedtnes gossips and uses foul language? And, really: which is worse---posting on someone's actual online deeds, or telling false gossip (i.e., that Metcalfe "swindled" Christenson widow) about someone with the clear intent to damage his reputation?

[_William Schryver]

Wow, Schryver too? I see that I've scored a "bullseye"!

No, Scratchy, darling. It's not called a "bullseye". It's called a "trick". And yes, you've scored another one.

And, like the shabby trailer park slut you are, I'm sure you'll keep on scoring them, one after another until all the faces look the same.

So fill your cup to overflowing, raise it high, drink it down, and wipe your filthy mouth with your sleeve.

[_Enuma Elish]

Lol. Which tradition, Dave-o? Mormonism?

Yeah, indeed. It's just that I really do like you, and notwithstanding my unorthodox, foul tempered, liberal ways, still know and respect some of these people that your crusade is attempting to belittle.

Why can't we all just get along?

Let's be happy.

[_William Schryver]

Lol. Which tradition, Dave-o? Mormonism?

Yeah, indeed. It's just that I really do like you, and notwithstanding my unorthodox, foul tempered, liberal ways, still know and respect some of these people that your crusade is attempting to belittle.

Why can't we all just get along?

Let's be happy.

As much as I truly admire your willingness to pet the rabid dog in hopes that it will wag its tail and be your friend, I'm afraid your naïvété is going to result in nothing but a bloody hand and bad case of rabies.

[_dartagnan]

Hey Will, when are you going to answer for your lies?

Why do you keep running every time I point them out?

Be a man, not a mouse.

Incidentally, John was the BYU "scholar" who emailed me during my first exchange with Metcalfe back in 2002, and informed me that Brent had swindled the KEP photos from the bereaving wife of Steve Christensen. He created this dramatic story, saying Brent had been fooling people into thinking he was really LDS but all along he was anti and nobody knew it, or else she never would have sold him the negatives.

It turns out that this was BS, and John later said it was just a rumor he heard and that he "could" be wrong.

This is what really made me flip on the issues. All this time I kept hearing stories about how deceptive and beligerent these "antis" are. FARMS reviews are filled with one ad hominem after another, focusing on the characters of the authors instead of the arguments they present. But when it is all said and done, I look back and see far more lies and deception on the part of the apologists.

Will is here to keep that tradition going strong. He lies because it is a means to an end.

[_Mister Scratch]

Lol. Which tradition, Dave-o? Mormonism?

Yeah, indeed. It's just that I really do like you, and notwithstanding my unorthodox, foul tempered, liberal ways, still know and respect some of these people that your crusade is attempting to belittle.

Why can't we all just get along?

Let's be happy.

Oh, believe me, Dave---I like you too. A lot. I respect you greatly, and think that you are an all-around good guy. But it worries me, the way you are falling in with this Mopologetic crowd. You are going to become a pawn in their various nasty agendas.

Anyways, the folks I care about are the anonymous onlookers---the various people whom I've never heard of who PM me out of the blue and say, "Hey, great posts Mr. Scratch!" or "I love the way you rake DCP over the coals!" I have received scores of such PMs, which leads me to believe that, over the years, apologists have pissed off a great number of people. And these "people" love seeing the apologists eat their just desserts.

Then there are those who are undecided. What do you think they will observe here? Sure, they may think some of my claims are "hyperbolic," but then they'll scroll down and see that the TBMs are responding by calling me an "ASS", a "racist," and a "whore." What, I ask---what will these onlookers think?

So: get out, Dave! Defend the Church if you like, but follow better examples, such as Richard Bushman! These SHIELDS types are bad news. You will only grow more bitter and angry if you follow your present course.

[_Mister Scratch]

Incidentally, John was the BYU "scholar" who emailed me during my first exchange with Metcalfe back in 2002, and informed me that Brent had swindled the KEP photos from the bereaving wife of Steve Christensen. He created this dramatic story, saying Brent had been fooling people into thinking he was really LDS but all along he was anti and nobody knew it, or else she never would have sold him the negatives.

It turns out that this was b***s***, and John later said it was just a rumor he heard and that he "could" be wrong.

Thank you for filling in the details, Dart. It occurs to me that Tvedtnes may have changed his tactics over the years. Whereas flinging profanity and aggressive challenges may have worked during the late 1990s, in the 2000s, full-out dissembling and lying was the order of the day.

[_Tarski]

Like a skanky whore with festering sores and lice crawling through her hair, Scratchy shows wherever she goes, the stench of disease precedes her.

You have serious problems.

[_skippy the dead]

The use of "bitching" and "damned" equate to "erupting" in an "angry, profane tirade"? Sheesh - that's mild vocabulary for most. I don't see this as a big deal.

I see nothing to get worked up here (well, except for Schryver's continued visits to the gutter; I find his comments more offensive and low than anything else on this thread, and would think so regardless of whom they were aimed at).

[_Dr. Shades]

Mister Scratch (and/or anyone else):

By way of "gee whiz" trivia, John Tvedtnes is the same apologist who reviewed a portion of my website for the Review of Books.

You can read what he says about me, and my site, here.