Gadianton wrote:I'm not mad at Will or even offended. I understand his anger. I understand, because I've taken some time to educate myself on apologetics, specifically the kind that stems from the school of Skinny-l. Will mentioned that he is friends with Louis Midgley, who is known for becoming angry very quickly. It's natural that Will would want to seem "cool" and impress the senior apologists with his own anger. I mean, look at how the Skinny-l crowd sent Tvedness into a blind rage, cussing obscenely at a Christian audience like he did as documented in this thread. No doubt this incident was known among those who promoted him to an associate at SHIELDS. Like I've said, apologetics is not the kind of thing you want to get involved with if peace and tranquility fall within the scope of your life goals.
OK....What am I missing? Using the word, "bitch" instead of "whine", for effect is considered going into a "blind rage, cussing obscenely at a Christian audience"? Frankly, I think this observation is a little extreme.
Tvedness' word usage may have been a little overkill for his audience, and though I agree that it may have been unprofessional, I don't know that I would call it scandalous. He was frustrated. And he was participating in something that was volunteer, that he hadn't really initially even asked to be a part of, according to him. This was his quote:
Tvedness wrote:I assumed that you were dropping the discussion of the Tanners and Craig Ray's piece. about which I said NOT ONE WORD in my messages. (I even indicated that I had NOT been a part of the discussion.) Did you, in fact, actually READ my message, which dealt only with Joseph Smith's first vision? Or did you ignore it because you wanted to drop any and all issues?
I sent my message and the attachment (on the first visions of Joseph Smith and Paul) to the entire list to which you had sent information. Since you are disseminating misinformation to this group, I thought it would be appropriate for me to set the record straight to the same group.
I NEVER asked to be included in your e-mails on this or any other topic, but you put me on your list anyway. So please stop bitching about my message; it's damned hypocritical. Check out that beam before you try helping me get rid of my mote.
John Tvedtnes
Good grief! Who hasn't lost their cool on one of these message board discussions? Just because Tvedtnes is a BYU professor, should he be immune?
Frankly, I don't think that Scratch's post was character assassination at all. I rather admired how Tvedtness held his own.
At least Tvedtness had a genuine frustration which caused him to react. What's Will's excuse?
All he has done for the past couple of weeks is just pop in and do these "drive-by" insults just for the hell of it. He wouldn't dare talk the way he does here at MAD. He just uses this place as a dumping ground because he feels it is beneath him. He doesn't see a need to be polite, or conduct himself as an adult.