Double Standard--Question for Will, et. al. from MAD

[_antishock8]

Dr. Peterson is, arguably, the most prominent Latter-day Saint who monitors this board and posts here. He is a BYU professor, editor of the FARMS review, etc.

Actually, Dr. Peterson HAS called Will on it in two ways:

He has publicly stated MULTIPLE times now, on both this thread, and the other one I started, that he does NOT approve of the crude types of posts that Will has delivered here.

He also serves as an example of an LDS apologist who can argue positions, and post his opinions without being crude and ugly to others.

Frankly, if Will chooses to ignore both Dr. Peterson's opinion regarding his posts, and his example of posting, then I question Will's respect for Dr. Peterson.

I'm going to go ahead and throw down the bs flag on that one. The talking carcass is very ugly to everyone who doesn't embrace his version of Mormonism. His antagonism and passive-aggressive posting style (and endless yammering) doesn't do anything but enflame hostility. Of course he'll be quick to point out "anti" behavior, but he is, after all, the one who has the onus to turn the chubby cheek, forgive, be long suffering, patient, Christlike, loving, kind, and all those other wonderful platitudes the Mormon church loves to teach.

The bottom line is this: What exactly in the world is an esteemed BYU professor doing inserting himself into the middle of threads like this, boards like this, and into endless tits for tats?

Personally, I love it. I think it's a perfectly appropriate reflection on Mormonism (and what it doesn't do for the human condition), the level of "professionalism" BYU likes to think it posseses, and most importantly, the kind of people Mormonism produces. Remember, the living carcass, Bill, drunk Coggins/MoJoJojo, Counselor Crock-it, and of course the eternally shallow twins LoaP and The Eeyore are part and parcel for the Male Mormon.

And of course any time these knuckleheads would like to stop the ad homs, and focus on content I think it would be great. But... They're pathologically incapable of that, just like they're pathologically incapable of being truthful. It's just in their Mormon nature. I know. I was born and raised in the cult. I was one of them. They can change, but they would have to risk everything to do so, and they're just not going to do it. They have too much to lose, ie, careers, family, community, etc.. So they're angry because that's all they have. That's all they'll ever be.

[_moksha]

Frankly, if Will chooses to ignore both Dr. Peterson's opinion regarding his posts, and his example of posting, then I question Will's respect for Dr. Peterson.

This could get him suspended or banned from MAD, could it not? Unless the time honored practice of crawling through the mud to attack the enemy takes precedence.

[_cksalmon]

Frankly, if Will chooses to ignore both Dr. Peterson's opinion regarding his posts, and his example of posting, then I question Will's respect for Dr. Peterson.

This could get him suspended or banned from MAD, could it not? Unless the time honored practice of crawling through the mud to attack the enemy takes precedence.

Merely quoting Will's words from MDB got me busted from MADB pundit to mere MADB member.

The mod said I should have known better than to quote his vulgarity in a Pundit thread.

[_moksha]

Merely quoting Will's words from MDB got me busted from MADB pundit to mere MADB member.

The mod said I should have known better than to quote his vulgarity in a Pundit thread.

Well there you have it, those MAD mods would not put up with Will's vulgarity. There is even more of a
mystery then of what is titillating those FARM workers into appreciating his vulgarity on this forum. Perhaps
the extensive electronic surveillance network in the basement of the Maxwell Institute Building is wrecking
havoc with the humor processing centers of their brains.

[_Tarski]

Dr. Peterson is under no obligation to challenge Will. He has produced a denial that he was secretly enjoying Will's more puerile comments and that clarifies all that needs to be clarified.

I don't feel a duty to denounce every puerile comment made by certain colorful critics on this board and I don't wish to make it my duty.

Its time we stop paying attention to Will until he does something interesting like answer challenges regarding his Book of Abraham junk. Don't hold your breath. In fact, the whole reason he has gone down the road he has here is to avoid those challenges. If he can say that we aren't worth it, then he can avoid facing the music while pretending its all because we are beneath him or that he hates us etc. Its really the weakness of his arguments that's behind all this.

[_beastie]

Its really the weakness of his arguments that's behind all this.

This is likely the crux of the matter. It's smoke and mirrors, a diversion from the real issue.

[_Yong Xi]

Ah, Will is just a kid sitting in the back of a high school bus mooning cars passing by while other students are egging him on. I'm kind of wondering if Daniel might be the bus driver while watching in the rear view mirror.

[Guest]

But, still. To whom is he referring?

Yes, I think that's the interesting question here. I honestly don't understand the continued impulse to condemn Will's posts. He clearly knows what he's doing is contrary to what people expect of church members and the fact that he can no matter how much anyone tells him he shouldn't is part of the appeal. If he published with FARMS, I'd be more interested in his behavior.

The fact that at least two members of FARMS other than DCP are monitoring this forum and enjoying Will's clumsy attempts at verbose put downs (lCoggins style) as well as the crude comments I think is fascinating.

I call upon Will to reveal these FARMS participants this instant in the name of the greater moral good. Who are they, Will? If Will won't answer, then I demand the FARMS associates who Will refers to: Register and reveal yourselves immediatley. The fact that Will has said as much as he has implicates all of FARMS except DCP until the culprits come clean. This is exactly like the case in grade school where you have a ring of friends, two of them do something wrong, suspicion is cast on the whole group, and it becomes to duty of the wrongdoers to admit their guilt at least for the sake of proving their friends' innocence in front of the class. Failure to do so is to act as a traitor towards one's friends. Will has already sold out his buddies, we'll see if these three kids (at least three) will sell out the rest of their group by not coming clean all the way.

[_TrashcanMan79]

Its time we stop paying attention to Will until he does something interesting like answer challenges regarding his Book of Abraham junk. Don't hold your breath. In fact, the whole reason he has gone down the road he has here is to avoid those challenges. If he can say that we aren't worth it, then he can avoid facing the music while pretending its all because we are beneath him or that he hates us etc. Its really the weakness of his arguments that's behind all this.

QFT

[_Wheat]

But, still. To whom is he referring?

Yes, I think that's the interesting question here. I honestly don't understand the continued impulse to condemn Wills posts. He clearly knows what he's doing is contrary to what people expect of church members and the fact that he can no matter how much anyone tells him he shouldn't is part of the appeal. If he published with FARMS, I'd be more interested in his behavior.

The fact that at least two members of FARMS other than DCP are monitoring this forum and enjoying his clumsy attempts at verbose put downs (lCoggins style) as well as the crude comments I think is fascinating.

I call upon Will to reveal these FARMS participants this instant in the name of the greater moral good. Who are they, Will? If Will won't answer, then I demand the FARMS associates who Will refers to: Register and reveal yourselves immediatley. The fact that Will has said as much as he has implicates all of FARMS except DCP until the culprits come clean. This is exactly like the case in grade school where you have a ring of friends, two of them do something wrong, suspicion is cast on the whole group, and it becomes to duty of the wrongdoers to admit their guilt at least for the sake of proving their friends' innocence. Failure to do so is to act as a traitor towards one's friends. Will has already sold out his buddies, we'll see if these three kids (at least three) will sell out the rest of their group by no coming clean all the way.

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I've followed this interesting thread and its counterpart for the past few days. It has been equal parts entertaining and shocking.

This most recent post, I would say, is possibly the most risible of all those that have preceded it __ and that is really saying something.

*You veel reveel your confederates, or ve veel keel you all.*