Why I am not a Mormon

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_Rollo Tomasi
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Post by _Rollo Tomasi »

Daniel Peterson wrote:
GoodK wrote:
Daniel Peterson wrote:Unspeakably Horrible GoodK Epistle 2 was actually copied to GoodK,

I was not copied by you. You sent the email to him without copying me, and likely without suspecting he would include me on the reply.
You wouldn't be trying to imply that you copied me on the email, would you?

That's precisely what I said. I didn't merely imply it.

Here is the address section of that e-mail, as it shows up in my "Sent Mail" folder:

This is way over the line -- you and GoodK should discuss whether he was or was not on the "to" list via PM. Even initials could give someone away. Take it off-board, Dan.
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."

-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
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TAK wrote:GoodK:
Watching this shameful display by DCP I have to wonder..
Do you think DCP was truly concerned for your father or do you think the goal of his injection into your life was just an attempt to silence a critic?


I have no doubt in my mind he was attempting to silence a critic.
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Post by _TAK »

GoodK wrote:
TAK wrote:GoodK:
Watching this shameful display by DCP I have to wonder..
Do you think DCP was truly concerned for your father or do you think the goal of his injection into your life was just an attempt to silence a critic?


I have no doubt in my mind he was attempting to silence a critic.


I think its obvious..
These apologist loath and hate anonymity.. They are accustomed to attacking the critic and side step the ideas presented.
_Daniel Peterson
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Post by _Daniel Peterson »

GoodK wrote:
Daniel Peterson wrote:
If you would prefer, I can post your full name and e-mail address.
Is that some sort of threat?

Good grief, no. Of course it's no "threat."

You seem, however, to assume that I'm a malicious liar -- this latest post is simply yet more confirmation of that -- and I wanted to signal my willingness, with your permission, to furnish as much of my corroborating evidence as you were willing to allow me to furnish. I assumed that your answer would be No. I'm content with that. Have you failed to notice that I've carefully avoided mentioning either your father's name or your name?

I have to admit that I'm continually floored by the evident assumption of a fair number here that I'm entirely vicious, totally without human feeling, wholly unprincipled, and willing to stoop to any unethical act.

GoodK wrote:Have you really sunk this low?

No. Of course not.

I would have just posted your name and address without your permission if I were the monster you like to imagine me to be.

But, now that I think about it, it's oddly reassuring to discover that you think that lower ethical regions exist to which haven't already sunk!

GoodK wrote:
Try counting my friends and supporters on this thread.


Persecution complex?

Count the posts criticizing me, which continue.

Count the posts supporting me, which, unless I'm mistaken, never began.

GoodK wrote:Perhaps, oh just perhaps, you are in the wrong here and can't see it as plainly as everyone else does.

Or, perhaps, in the kingdom of the blind the one-eyed man is king.

GoodK wrote:Perhaps the reason none of your friends or supporters have shown up to offer their support is they don't support your decision to tattle on me in these two examples.

Overwhelmingly, the people who actually know me pay no attention to this place. They've never heard of the Crime of the Century, nor of this board, nor of you.

I note with interest that you haven't acknowledged that you were mistaken about my having sent Unspeakably Horrible GoodK Epistle 2 to you. You proceed as if I haven't just proven your denial wrong. Yet, thus far, I've seen no chorus crowing about how this proves that atheism made you do it, or that atheists never apologize or say they're sorry. Odd, that.

This is a really funny place.
_Daniel Peterson
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Post by _Daniel Peterson »

TAK wrote:
GoodK wrote:I have no doubt in my mind he was attempting to silence a critic.


I think its obvious..
These apologist loath and hate anonymity.. They are accustomed to attacking the critic and side step the ideas presented.

I had no desire to "silence a critic." (Frankly, GoodK isn't a significant player among critics, anyway.)

I have privileged access to my own motivations, and that played no part in them. I've explained my reason.

If you're going to insist that I'm lying about my reason for doing what I did, what point is there in my saying anything here?
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Post by _The Nehor »

I don't think DCP's decision was a bad one.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics
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Post by _Rollo Tomasi »

The Nehor wrote:I don't think DCP's decision was a bad one.

SEE, DAN:

Someone loves ya.
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."

-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
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Post by _Daniel Peterson »

The Nehor wrote:I don't think DCP's decision was a bad one.

Good grief. Don't you realize that you've just lowered yourself to the level of Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, Richard Ramirez, and Dan Peterson?

How dare you violate the unanimity of this board???
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Rollo Tomasi wrote:This is way over the line -- you and GoodK should discuss whether he was or was not on the "to" list via PM. Even initials could give someone away. Take it off-board, Dan.


I guess Dan feels he is above speaking with me directly.

But I hope everyone lurking takes note of Dan's performance.

This is the cream of the crop at F.A.R.M.S. Parents of BYU students, take note.

Instead of owning up to what he has done and at least admitting his timing was bad, he has done his best to avoid taking any sort of responsibility while shifting the blame to me.

Now he has stooped to threatening to post more personal information about me on the internet.

Wow.
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Post by _Runtu »

Daniel Peterson wrote:
The Nehor wrote:I don't think DCP's decision was a bad one.

Good grief. Don't you realize that you've just lowered yourself to the level of Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, Richard Ramirez, and Dan Peterson?

How dare you violate the unanimity of this board???


Comparing yourself to serial killers, even in jest, is going too far, Dan.
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