Why I am not a Mormon

[_marg]

Incidentally Dan maybe his father is, that doesn't mean the comment is mocking.

[_Chap]

Yup.

That was a blowhard.

Sorry GoodK. DCP has really done a good job here, hasn't he?


Edited to add:

by the way, I still think you should forgive DCP. He knows not what he does.

And think of all the bystanders who have been put off the CoJCoLDS for life by reading this thread.

[_antishock8]

OH my god. If that father actually wrote that, he is piece of crap.

To Mr. Ethics,

You, Sir, are a scumbag for having put your friendship with the Talking Carcass ahead of your relationship with your son. You sick son of a bitch, have publically placed religion and a non-family member ahead of your own son.

Shame on you. Shame shame shame... On you.

[Guest]

And to the Talking Carcass. You fat damned pig. Doing this crap, getting your jollies from messing with this family. You deserve every ounce of disdain and scorn shown you. You do the Mormon church much honor.

[_Daniel Peterson]

Since the statement from GoodK's father appeared at the end of the previous page and that "page" was almost immediately "turned," I want to make sure that people reading this page are aware of it.

Carry on.

[_marg]

[quote= "GoodK's dad"] I hope he will, in time, realize the path he is on has only brought him much pain, much sorrow, and much deprivation. [/quote]

I highly suspect you've contributed to the pain and especially the deprivation. Why on earth with your attitude would you want him to succeed being as he doesn't love God like you think he should.

[_The Nehor]

Just when you think you can't get more inane indignation things take a turn for the hilarious.

[_Rollo Tomasi]

I have, as I say, bowed out of this ridiculous thread. (Incidentally, marg, it's simply ridiculous to claim that calling one's father a "blow-hard" isn't mocking him.) But this item just showed up on my e-mail, and I think it merits inclusion in the public record regarding my culpability for the Crime of the Century:

Hi Dan:

I have followed this thread ("Why I am not a Mormon") and here are a few comments I'll make which you have my permission to post on that message board if you wish (though you certainly don't have to and I'm not asking you to do so for my sake):

1. What you did in alerting me to my son's post was in no way unethical. As one who teaches ethics at the college level I think I know something of the subject. There was simply no ethical breach involved here whatsoever and any and all posters who believe otherwise are fooling themselves.

2. My son's angst over your informing me of his post is a simple matter of him being exposed for something he did that he should not have done. He knows this, and I know this and I am confident that deep down inside he is ashamed of himself for mocking the priesthood (as he should be.)

3. As you and I have enjoyed a warm friendship for over 20 years now, I am grateful to you for having alerted me to my son's public posting. You did the right thing, I would have done the same, and I think, though they won't admit it, most everyone on that message board who condemns you would have behaved in like manner if they had any common sense or conscience at all. They will deny this, but that is beside the point.

4. While I normally do not spend time in forums of this sort, I have found the experience of reading through the various posts to be both hilarious and depressing. You, Dan, are hilarious with most of the things you have posted and I have had many a laugh watching you run circles around a bunch of bitter, angry people who think they've vanquished you and yet often betray a deep misunderstanding of your wit or your point. It's also depressing to read what some would consider to be their own contributions to reasoned discourse.

5. As to my relationship with my son, let me say that while I was disappointed in what he wrote -- especially in the fact that he did so in a public forum -- it in no way did any significant damage to our relationship. He is quite young and inexperienced and I think if and when he matures a bit in the next ten to twenty years or so, he will see things quite differently than he does at this time. (One would hope so.) He's not a fundamentally bad person and he's a lot more cocky in print than he is in a face-to-face encounter. This forum is one way for him to vent and work out some of the bigger questions he's wrestling with. I have high hopes for him long-term.

6. Finally, the purpose of this thread, which he titled "Why I am not a Mormon" is a farce. By that I mean that his reasons are a smoke-screen. They are an excuse. I won't confess his sins in public, but at the risk of stating the obvious, let's just say that if he loved God more than the things of the world he would be a very strong Latter-day Saint. As it is, the "world" has his attention at this time. I hope he will, in time, realize the path he is on has only brought him much pain, much sorrow, and much deprivation. God is at the helm and God will not be mocked. Eventually every knee shall bow before Christ and every tongue will confess His Messiahship. And that includes my son and every self-professed atheist on this list. When he finally gets tired of sin, I think he will make the right decisions, repent, and return. And we will welcome him with open arms. And you and he will probably look back on this thread and have a good laugh together.

Your friend,

Of course, I probably forged it.

Wow, that father is one messed up dude. He's actually trashing his son to help Dan save face. I feel sorry for you, GoodK, but this really shows your father's true colors. He, Dan and the rest of the FARMSboys would rather band together and throw their families aside to keep a united apologist front. This really opens an entirely new view of those guys ... and it's very, very scary. And to think the Brethren are putting the Church's defenses in their hands ....

[_The Nehor]

GoodK's dad, you're awesome. Feel free to participate here and join in the fun.

[_beastie]

Finally, the purpose of this thread, which he titled "Why I am not a Mormon" is a farce. By that I mean that his reasons are a smoke-screen. They are an excuse. I won't confess his sins in public, but at the risk of stating the obvious, let's just say that if he loved God more than the things of the world he would be a very strong Latter-day Saint. As it is, the "world" has his attention at this time. I hope he will, in time, realize the path he is on has only brought him much pain, much sorrow, and much deprivation. God is at the helm and God will not be mocked. Eventually every knee shall bow before Christ and every tongue will confess His Messiahship. And that includes my son and every self-professed atheist on this list. When he finally gets tired of sin, I think he will make the right decisions, repent, and return. And we will welcome him with open arms. And you and he will probably look back on this thread and have a good laugh together.

If only GoodK's father would abandon his love of filthy swine and his heretical Jesus worship, if only he loved Allah more than the things of the world, he would be a very strong Muslim. As it is, filthy swine and the false traditions of his culture has his attention at this time. Allah and all the true faithful hope he will, in time, realize the path he is on has only brought him much pain, much sorrow, and much deprivation. Allah is at the helm and Allah will not be mocked. Eventually every knee shall bow before Allah and cast aside the false gods, and every tongue will confess that there is only ONE God, and his name is ALLAH! And that includes every Mormon on this list. When GoodK's father finally gets tired of sin, Allah believes he will make the right decision, and abandon the false faith and embrace the one God, Allah, revealed through his prophet Mohamed. And Allah will welcome him with open arms.

If only GoodK's father would abandon his superstitious love of the religion of his fathers, if only he were in tune enough to recognize that he needs to be audited in order to free himself from the influence of the implants of Helatrobus, then he could become his true self. If only GoodK's father could free himself from the past and embrace his path along the Bridge to Total Freedom, he could develop the spiritual technology necessary to rid himself of false implants, including the false implant of Mormonism. Then he could access Knowledge, Responsibility, and Control.

If only GoodK's father would abandon his love of a false gospel taught by satan disguised as an angel of light, then he could be born again.

etc ad nauseum ad infinitum

Dan, give GoodK's father a message for me, or perhaps he is still reading this thread. When individuals no longer believe in Mormonism, they no longer feel compelled to live by its standards. You know, just like Jews who may convert to Mormonism may start eating pork. Or catholics who convert to Mormonism no longer attend mass and confession.

I know it's a convenient stick with which to bash exmormons, but it's really just a smokescreen, GoodK's dad. It's a way to make you feel better about the fact that you still believe in something as patently silly as Mormonism.