Daniel Peterson wrote:I've never made any secret of the fact that I think your reference to your father was mocking and unfortunate -- and, obviously, if you had merely observed that the sky is blue or that 2+2=4 I would have had no reason to pay any particular attention to your post -- but, beyond that, how have I tried to shift any "guilt" to you?
If you had discovered GoodK's identity on this bb without GoodK's post in question, you still would have pointed this out to his dad. Do you deny it?
I did what I did. I see no ethical problem in it at all. I don't feel guilty about it, and am aware of no "guilt" that needs to be "shifted" to anybody.
There's that "ethical" qualifier again. Well done, bishop.
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
mentalgymnast wrote: Best wishes in your relationship with your father. I think too much has been made public at this juncture and that you ought to consider working things out privately with your dad. Putting out perceived dirty laundry and/or family issues into the public domain and expecting things to move in a positive direction may be unrealistic.
Ironic, eh? Dan, did you read this? From one of your three supporters (not even Nehor, either!).
On a lighter note, Shades, are you ready to pay me yet?
Nearly 4,000 views since Monday. That has to count for something. I at least deserve that blue shirt you gave Nehor.
I got a blue shirt???? Did it get lost in the mail?
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
mentalgymnast wrote: Best wishes in your relationship with your father. I think too much has been made public at this juncture and that you ought to consider working things out privately with your dad. Putting out perceived dirty laundry and/or family issues into the public domain and expecting things to move in a positive direction may be unrealistic.
Ironic, eh? Dan, did you read this? From one of your three supporters (not even Nehor, either!).
I'm referring to your post that is time stamped at 12:47pm today on page 12.
GoodK wrote:Nearly 4,000 views since Monday. That has to count for something.
The good thing about this is that many folks are seeing DCP for who he truly is.
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
mentalgymnast wrote: Best wishes in your relationship with your father. I think too much has been made public at this juncture and that you ought to consider working things out privately with your dad. Putting out perceived dirty laundry and/or family issues into the public domain and expecting things to move in a positive direction may be unrealistic.
Ironic, eh? Dan, did you read this? From one of your three supporters (not even Nehor, either!).
I'm referring to your post that is time stamped at 12:47pm today on page 12.
Regards, MG
And I'm referring to the entirety of this thread, and pages 10- 14.
GoodK wrote:Nearly 4,000 views since Monday. That has to count for something.
The good thing about this is that many folks are seeing DCP for who he truly is.
Unfortunately not my Dad, whom I love dearly, but will continue to spend his money on the garbage produced by a man who would rather accuse me of being insensitive to my baby sister's life-threatening illness than just apologize.
This place is fast becoming the Internet version of the Jerry Springer Show. What a zoological garden this really is. A cornucopia of neurosis, paranoia, and unbridled foam flecked hostility. Rollo is now running a close second to Scratch as the main purveyor of character assassination and the tabloid-like smearing of motives that Scratch has tuned to a fine high pitch. His liberal moral grandiosity just gets the better of him sometimes, it seems.
I now seem, upon reflection to be limiting my posting here to once every two weeks or so, and now, yet again, I understand why.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
GoodK wrote:Nearly 4,000 views since Monday. That has to count for something.
The good thing about this is that many folks are seeing DCP for who he truly is.
And such is his deep discernment that he keeps on and on digging the hole deeper.
I really don't get it. Maybe this is some kind of psychic artifact of the years he told us about when he was the only Mormon kid in the school, remorselessly teased by his peers, or whatever it was he said happened. Under those circumstances moral masochism can become a kind of art form that plays out for the rest of your life ...
Just stop it, man. Leaving aside the damage you are doing to the LDS church (which I rather welcome), you are beginning to bring intelligence and articulacy into disrepute.
Droopy wrote:This place is fast becoming the Internet version of the Jerry Springer Show. What a zoological garden this really is. A cornucopia of neurosis, paranoia, and unbridled foam flecked hostility. Rollo is now running a close second to Scratch as the main purveyor of character assassination and the tabloid-like smearing of motives that Scratch has tuned to a fine high pitch.
It's nice to see that Bishop Dan has at least one more fan.
His liberal moral grandiosity just gets the better of him sometimes, it seems.
How does anything on this thread have to do with whether I am "liberal"?
I now seem, upon reflection to be limiting my posting here to once every two weeks or so, and now, yet again, I understand why.
Sorry if my kicking your butt on the gay marriage thread has caused this. You'll be back ....
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)