Double Standard--Question for Will, et. al. from MAD
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[cksalmon] Schryver made reference to "shameless buggerers" who gather in a circle to "spill their seed" on KG's tossed-in "biscuit."
I can’t seem to locate this quote. A search for *spill* and *seed* only returns your posts.
Schryver is the one who suggested homosexual activity. Not I.
I’m not sure if I found the earliest instances, but from what I could tell it was you who first made mention of homosexualtiy in reference to Schryver’s use of the term *circle jerk*. In fact, I could not find any instances where Schryver used homosexuality to describe critics __ at least not until the time when you and your colleagues here were talking about how apologists claim critics are Mormons who become gay, or something along those lines. As I recall, at the time Schryver made the *buggerers* comment, there was another concurrent thread talking about D. Michael Quinn, and how apologists play the homosexuality card to discredit critics. That was the context in which he said you were all shameless buggers. At the time I took it as tongue in cheek and I was amused at how you reacted to it. Now that you have removed it from its earlier context, you can make it look like a serious comment when that’s not the way it originally came across __ at least not to me.
You obviously haven't been following this particular thread carefully.
I’ve followed it closely enough to see how you have exaggerated and misrepresented lots of things. I’m beginning to think that is your standard MO. Having been fooled once by you, I’ll be more careful in the future. You are selling propaganda to a receptive market.You couldn’t get away with the things you do outside this friendly environment of people who will pat you on the back no matter what you say.
You've been tricked by Schryver's attempts to rehab his comments.
I’ve seen the many times you’ve distorted or taken out of context things he wrote. But I must have missed where Schryer attempted to *rehab* his comments? Are you making things up again? It’s hard to trust any thing you say any more.
Don't get me wrong. I more or less agree with Dr. Petersen __ sexually-themed comments are not my cup of tea. But I also think that you conciously mis-represent the things people say in order to further your agenda here. That's why I've spoken out in defense of Schryer here. And as Forrest Gump would say __ *That's all I have to say about that.* I'll go back in to lurk mode now and let you do what you do best.
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Wheat wrote:[cksalmon] Schryver made reference to "shameless buggerers" who gather in a circle to "spill their seed" on KG's tossed-in "biscuit."
I can’t seem to locate this quote. A search for *spill* and *seed* only returns your posts.
http://www.mormondiscussions.com/discus ... 004#158004
The quote doesn't use spill and seed, but it carries the same general idea.
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skippy the dead wrote:Wheat wrote:[cksalmon] Schryver made reference to "shameless buggerers" who gather in a circle to "spill their seed" on KG's tossed-in "biscuit."
I can’t seem to locate this quote. A search for *spill* and *seed* only returns your posts.
http://www.mormondiscussions.com/discus ... 004#158004
The quote doesn't use spill and seed, but it carries the same general idea.
Also, see the following:
Schryver making another gay joke:
(No, no, no. Stand up straight. I said “annals.”)
Schryver suggesting that perhaps I'm gay:
I continue to be mildly amused by the counter-caricature you have concocted. You seem to have become voyeuristically-obsessed with this tawdry scene you have imagined for yourself. It almost makes one wonder -- perhaps the gentleman doth protest too much?
Schryver making another joke about masturbation.
Despite the quaint naïveté of your sincere, albeit misguided invitation, I assure you I’m quite certain that if I served notice of intent, I would be welcomed into the circle with open arms and hairy palms.
The spilling seedcomment--Schryver's next response after the anal joke (or, Will tries to rehab his past indiscretions):
I am but a journalist as it pertains to these particular observations. I report what I see: A group of men (and several women), figuratively in a circle, mocking God and their former brethren as they wantonly spill the seed of their intellect in alternating paroxysms of vanity and nihilistic resignation.
Behold the wisdom of taking matters into your own hands.
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cksalmon wrote:skippy the dead wrote:Wheat wrote:[cksalmon] Schryver made reference to "shameless buggerers" who gather in a circle to "spill their seed" on KG's tossed-in "biscuit."
I can’t seem to locate this quote. A search for *spill* and *seed* only returns your posts.
http://www.mormondiscussions.com/discus ... 004#158004
The quote doesn't use spill and seed, but it carries the same general idea.
Also, see the following:
Schryver making another gay joke:(No, no, no. Stand up straight. I said “annals.”)
Schryver suggesting that perhaps I'm gay:I continue to be mildly amused by the counter-caricature you have concocted. You seem to have become voyeuristically-obsessed with this tawdry scene you have imagined for yourself. It almost makes one wonder -- perhaps the gentleman doth protest too much?
Schryver making another joke about masturbation.Despite the quaint naïveté of your sincere, albeit misguided invitation, I assure you I’m quite certain that if I served notice of intent, I would be welcomed into the circle with open arms and hairy palms.
The spilling seedcomment--Schryver's next response after the anal joke (or, Will tries to rehab his past indiscretions):I am but a journalist as it pertains to these particular observations. I report what I see: A group of men (and several women), figuratively in a circle, mocking God and their former brethren as they wantonly spill the seed of their intellect in alternating paroxysms of vanity and nihilistic resignation.
Behold the wisdom of taking matters into your own hands.
Something tells me that you are entirely unaware of the fact that you have just proven my point.
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Re: re: Double Standards
Daniel Peterson wrote: By contrast, your anti-Mormon allies at the Provo parade targeted my wife, who brought two specimens of their work home with her.
Yikes, what happened? Were powdered donuts thrown?
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Something tells me you are entirely unaware of how unseemly it is to stand up for verbal sewage like this.
Oh, come now. I'm sure it's a very effective missionary tool, and exactly what the brethren had in mind with their advice to believers using the internet.
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.
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Re: re: Double Standards
moksha wrote:Daniel Peterson wrote: By contrast, your anti-Mormon allies at the Provo parade targeted my wife, who brought two specimens of their work home with her.
Yikes, what happened? Were powdered donuts thrown?
Let's get this right:
LDS apologist does bad stuff on this board -> Other LDS apologists active on this board are in no way implicated.
non-LDS do bad stuff in Provo -> critics of CoJCoLDS on this board are "allies" of the said non-LDS