Can a leftist be considered a faithful Latter Day Saint?

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_Tarski
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Droopy wrote:
The mainstream environmental movement is the movement that gave us An Inconvenient Truth and the Kyoto Protocol.

Every thought you think about these two topics is false.
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Both are the fantasies of the despotic minds of totalitarians, as petty and forlorn as they may be. Care to debate the facts of the matter Tarski?
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Droopy wrote:Both are the fantasies of the despotic minds of totalitarians, as petty and forlorn as they may be. Care to debate the facts of the matter Tarski?

There is one big problem: What you call "facts", usually aren't. Arguing with you on the environment is like arguing with Kent Hovind on young earth creationism. Hovind has a mountain of pre-fabricated and misconstrued pseudo-facts and inane fake science that he fires off machine gun style laughing arrogantly and triumphantly the whole time.
No, you are too far out to be reasoned with and lack a scientific sense of plausiblity (the latter being manifest not only in the blind acceptance of rightwing pseudo-science but more dramatically in the acceptance of the whole complex of absurdities which includes disappearing-gold-plates, Kolob, shinehaha, Noah's ark, tower of Babel, angels with flaming swords, secret handshakes and so on).
when believers want to give their claims more weight, they dress these claims up in scientific terms. When believers want to belittle atheism or secular humanism, they call it a "religion". -Beastie

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Tarski wrote:
Droopy wrote:Both are the fantasies of the despotic minds of totalitarians, as petty and forlorn as they may be. Care to debate the facts of the matter Tarski?


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No, you are too far out to be reasoned with and lack a scientific sense of plausiblity (the latter being manifest [ ...] in the acceptance of the whole complex of absurdities which includes disappearing-gold-plates, Kolob, shinehaha, Noah's ark, tower of Babel, angels with flaming swords, secret handshakes and so on).


C'mon now. Droopy really doesn't believe in all that stuff. He's a careful and sceptical weigher of evidence, and never believes in things just because he was brought up to believe in them.
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Wild horses have not been successful in dragging you into an actual point by point, fact by fact discussion of AGW for much of the last year. You just won't do it, and you and I both know precisely why you won't do it.

With the south Arctic presently sporting the most massive ice cover since the inception of the satellite mapping of the continent, no global warming during the last decade, and virtually all the major predictions of the GCMs empirically discredited, where can you go?
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C'mon now. Droopy really doesn't believe in all that stuff. He's a careful and sceptical weigher of evidence, and never believes in things just because he was brought up to believe in them.



You are precisely and exactly correct on all points.

However, my convictions regarding the Gospel go far beyond the weighing of evidence.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us

- President Ezra Taft Benson


I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.

- Thomas Sowell
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